RE: Peterson's 12 Rules for Life v2.0-- actual book discussion
October 6, 2018 at 1:41 pm
(This post was last modified: October 6, 2018 at 1:51 pm by GrandizerII.)
(October 6, 2018 at 11:59 am)paulpablo Wrote: Well I dated a Syrian women and if it wasn't for her accent or her telling me I would have never known she was from Syria and she looked very much as white as I am, and I am white. Looking back at pictures she was around as pale as me if not more.
So it would be impossible for her or her family members back in Syria to be discriminated against by people who bought into a system who oppresses them? I am making an assumption that there's some family resemblance between her and her family.
In the case of Gypsy families in the UK also they're definitely perceived as white. I mean whiter than white, their kids are often ginger and pale with freckles.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...t-mps-poll
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...-prejudice
Too many things to untangle here. Are Syrian people with pale skin considered white? Are gypsies, irrespective of their "objective" skin colors, seen as white?
In the past, Irish people weren't considered white in America. Did you know that?
https://history.howstuffworks.com/histor...-white.htm
So white isn't referring simply to the literal objective color of your skin. If anything, you could be on the browner side and still pass off as white. It's how you are perceived in terms of color, not what color is seen on your skin.
And as for discrimination in Syria, I really doubt it's whiteness that they're discriminating against over there. In fact, in my homecountry, whiteness isn't much of a privilege there because it's basically Christian and Muslim people of Phoenician and/or Arab descent. I suspect something similar with regards to Syria.
(October 6, 2018 at 12:36 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(October 6, 2018 at 10:43 am)Grandizer Wrote: White people don't need protection from race-based prejudice, even if there are groups that hate white people.You talk about black people like they are an endangered species. They are citizens, accorded the same liberties and rights as other citizens. If they feel their rights aren't being fulfilled, then they can sue, or protest, or pick up arms against tyranny. And if you feel like supporting them in any of those endeavors, then I respect your right to do so.
But when you take it upon yourself to support a position by which unequal treatment of individual citizens is not only allowed but required, and this unequal treatment is predicated on race (real or apparent), then you are trying to get two wrongs to make a right.
You're wrong on this one, man. You're a racist using special pleading and tunnel-vision definitions to justify your racism. Don't do that. Repeat after me: "One law for all."
I'm sorry, Benny, but this is just tired old speech that has been said by many a politician around the world many many times. "Reverse racism" is a joke. Don't buy into that nonsense.