(October 5, 2018 at 10:42 am)Grandizer Wrote: Peterson has videos on YouTube, and there are interviews with him as well. I have listened to some of them. So, as much as you would enjoy the narrative that I am, I'm not going by just opinion pieces about him.
Yes and yet this is not a thread titled Jordan Peterson's youtube channel and interview discussion. I, admittedly, have not watched too many of his Youtube videos. I've seen a few of his interviews and never heard him say something all that preposterous. Once again I think he's insanely disingenuous when it comes to religion; I suspect he's a closet agnostic, but that's just my gut feeling. You hear a lot of people talking about religion the way he does before they come out and admit, "I don't really know." But that's just my gut feeling and it could be totally off.
(October 5, 2018 at 10:42 am)Grandizer Wrote: I wonder why ...You wonder why what?
(October 5, 2018 at 10:42 am)Grandizer Wrote: You don't think he espouses views that encourage sexist attitudes against women, and that his trivialization of white privilege further enables white supremacist positions and attitudes?
Nope. Quote me something directly from Peterson that he's said that you think is sexist and please cite a source I can see/hear or read myself and I'd be happy to talk it over with you. And no, I do not think that trivializing white privilege further enables white supremacy. This is the type of absolute thinking that KILLS conversations on topics like this. I think trivializing white privilege makes you ignorant about white privilege, nothing more. This idea that - You trivialize white privilege therefore your enable nazis and skinheads is fucking insane. This is the type of talk on the left that sometimes makes me embarrassed to call myself a liberal.
(October 5, 2018 at 10:42 am)Grandizer Wrote: I do believe Peterson's a bigot, and maybe I did call him that here somewhere (can't remember), but I was sure to point out some of his mistakes as well. For example, that sexism itself continues to contribute to the wage gap between men and women, as seen by the studies that show even agreeable men earn more than agreeable women. Hell, men who score high on agreeableness still often fare better in the workforce than women who score low on agreeableness.I'm not an economist and won't pretend to know too much about the wage gap. I think it's a complex issue that needs to be tackled on a case-to-case basis and needs to be examined within specific industries. Even me saying that is coming from a very rudimentary understanding of economics. So I don't know too much, if anything, about the wage gap or how all of that works.
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