(October 7, 2018 at 11:27 am)Grandizer Wrote: Then by all means, share with us what you have learned from reading his book, and we can discuss. I'm sure you've done that with robvalue and perhaps a few others, but I wasn't here when this thread was first started, and I can't just go back and respond to everything that was said before I came in here. I did have a read of a lot of the posts that were made in this thread (and the other Peterson thread) before my initial participation here, so I still have an idea regardless of what you guys have been talking about. And from what I've read, I didn't see anything that would make me change my mind regarding Peterson. The sexism is implicit in his views, and it's exemplified by when he says that chaos is represented by (or associated with) femininity and order with masculinity. But it seems like you came prepared with some good apologetics for this, arguing it's not sexist, even though Peterson is just arguing out of his ass here (like he usually does), and order is clearly perceived as better than chaos. And apparently, according to this post, he does associate order with men and chaos with women.
So not only do you admit to not reading the book, you completely get the quote wrong about Order and Chaos. You also conveniently ignore that Peterson believes, per his words from 12 Rules, that a meaningful life requires a balance somewhere between order and chaos. That chaos represents potential, success and a yearning for the unknown, the strive for knowledge. But I'm sure you'll still find a way to paint this as "sexist."
Then you go on to say that Peterson doesn't say anything explicitly sexist, but it's just so clear that if I don't see it I'm never going to get it.
Ha, wow.
Listen I'm sick of trying to explain these things to people who HAVEN'T READ THE BOOK only to have the ignore what I say and double down on their own views. We're clearly too far apart in our view about this. And yes, you're right, some of us see what we want to see. I suppose that explains your wildly inaccurate view of some of Peterson's ideas. Read the book, then maybe I'll continue to discuss the book with you. Til then, see ya.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
