RE: How can you be an atheist?!
September 25, 2011 at 12:13 pm
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2011 at 12:18 pm by IATIA.)
(September 24, 2011 at 9:53 pm)IATIA Wrote: Because it is scientifically and logically impossible for a god to exist!
(September 25, 2011 at 1:14 am)padraic Wrote: Let's not get carried away with hyperbole old thing. You have just made two positive claims and attracted the burden of proof. IE you have given your self the obligation to prove your claims. Lots of luck;I'm pretty sure both claims are untrue:
A god must be finite or infinite.
Nothing can traverse an infinity.
Therefore god must be finite.
A finite god has a beginning.
What created that beginning?
Infinite regression does not allow any existence.
(For the same reason god cannot be infinite.)
We are aware, so something exists. (Whatever the reality is.)
A beginning requires something.
So "nothing" cannot exist.
Time is not a necessary component of quantum physics.
Without time there is no before or after, no beginning, no end.
Everything just 'is'.
All of 'reality' is just our individual perception.
Quote:(Quantum mechanics is a purely statistical theory. It does not describe physical processes. It only gives the possible results of a measurement and the probability distribution of those results.)
In other words, a specific quantum wave-particle can be anywhere at anytime, but will probably be ...
Causality is a function of the macro-world due to our perception, our 'linear' thought, but causality is not proven or disproven at a quantum level nor even necessary (for now anyway).
'Spooky-action-at-a-distance" 'disproves' causality. (A plethora of papers on that subject, pro and con.) 'Local' quantum actions do suggest causality in some respects, but not definitive as in our understanding in the macro world. For instance, 'A' precedes 'B', but 'A' does not 'cause' 'B'.
Radioactive decay is a very precise process, but there is no way to know which individual atom will be the one that decays. At this time there is no known 'cause', so effectively we have a lack of causality here also.
Ultimately, causality is relative and a beginning is not necessary.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson
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-- Superintendent Chalmers
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-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
