RE: Trump has blood on his hands
October 22, 2018 at 4:23 pm
(This post was last modified: October 22, 2018 at 4:25 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 22, 2018 at 1:43 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:Seeing as how the questions above cover the broad range of all possible US involvement in this issue it's difficult to see what you want or expect. If no involvement from the US is possible or amenable, then it's not a problem that the US can help you with, or a problem that the US owns. Deal with your murderous dictator, I guess?(October 22, 2018 at 11:52 am)Khemikal Wrote: Are you concerned that the US doesn't do enough to diminish local/regional hegemonic power?
Should the US enact punitive measures against the state, the effects of which will fall primarily on citizens of both countries but...to be very specific..much more heavily on the other party?
If the US does enjoy a relationship with the state that could produce cooperation (or effectively coerce) on a specific issue, would it be prudent to cut the ties of that consequential and binding relationship?
If the US does not enjoy a relationship with the state that could produce cooperation (or effectively coerce) on a specific issue, is regime change on the table?
Is there some alternative to our current partners?
No.
Quote:My objection is that it's "doing too much" for the Saudi regime, and proved to sacrifice its own people to support its local allies or to stalk their oil.
In other words; it played the role of the fine mercenary for a long time; and the petrodollar was the paycheck it got from Arab dictators -especially the Sauds-.
Do you want me to count the wars America sacrificed its own marines in to protect Arab dictatorships? protecting the Arabs promised the flowing of oil to supply the petrodollar machine; even if it was estimated by 20% of the global production.
It's very simple in cases like this: the American administration (under Trump) supported a psychopath (MBS) that hacks people with a bonesaw. So stand against him, and the mad fuck will probably order a kill squad to butcher you.
America stood with the monster; and had a long long history of supporting his grandparent; the first "bone saw" of Arabia.
America gave this regime a soul. It gave this regime a spirit inside the USA and in most of the world's capitals.
The billions they paid him will now play their role.
I think that you fundamentally misunderstand the relationship between the US and Arab dictatorships. We don't prop them up for their own good, or for yours. American soldiers don't fight for their interests, or yours. Our billions buy us a product, and access to strategically valuable airspace. Every US admin has supported a nutball regime in the persian gulf....because...wait for it.......
....that's all that's on offer.
The US would likely prefer an ally occupying that space that offers the same relationship without any stupid pr headaches. Know anybody?
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