RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
October 23, 2018 at 4:29 pm
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2018 at 4:30 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 23, 2018 at 3:13 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:Then the population can declare as much, and when the dust on that settles we can reassess. Meanwhile, the KSA is a sovereign country. There is a political reality to contend with.(October 23, 2018 at 2:48 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I can only reiterate the fact that the US has no interest in supporting your enemies. We support reliable actors who wield institutional authority, our government isn't cutting billion dollar deals with your neighbor up the street (even though he's a superswell guy!). With all the attempts at regime change in the middle east these past few decades a person might even start to think that we're not entirely satisfied with our regional partners. The saudi regime, ideologically, is trash..but they provide political stability. That's how they've held on to their sovereignty and support.
They're who we have to work with. We can see it as a roster of ghouls because it is..our seeing it that way didn't make it so..and if we could make things otherwise just by seeing whatever we desired we would, lol. Alas, The Great Satan fails to live up to it's rep again.
What's damaging and selfish is the regions ability to produce and then sustain strongmen (and authoritarian regimes).
But Saudi Arabia has no sovereignty. The domestic population didn't choose the Sauds or build their empire. The kingdom counted on the U.S army to defend it for a payment, either the protecting was during the gulf war, invasion of Iraq or now.
What kind of sovereignty is that? Even "ARAMCO", the jewel of the Saudi oil empire has "Arabian American Oil Company" as its acronym, that is not sovereignty at all.
Quote:It's very simple: a regime does crimes. If you have a bit of dignity and authenticity, you won't deal with that regime until it stops it crimes.That fucked up shit happens in the middle east all the time is a western truism, Atlas, lol.
The math can't be easier. But when it's the moment of acting, we get excuses atop of excuses.
Between me, democrats, republicans, Trump, Zionists: you didn't know for a single moment that Saudi Arabia did crimes like this all the time?
I mean come on ! in Jamal's case, you exposed the dirty laundry in 2 seconds.. why don't you do it with everything else and let us get drunk on the real facts?
The only ghoul here is the selfish,interest driven man with the bone saw. He has both an Arab and a White variation; though.
The international community is infested by ghouls. They only know how to "laugh" better than MBS
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