RE: Question on Theistic Evolution
October 23, 2018 at 5:00 pm
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2018 at 6:03 pm by Aliza.
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(October 23, 2018 at 4:35 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(October 23, 2018 at 3:36 pm)Aliza Wrote: If someone wants to believe in their religion and also accept the current interpretations of where our best understanding of science is pointing us, then all they have to say is that evolution happened as G-d intended; randomly and with the only purpose being to continuously adapt to their environment. When a theist steps into a science environment, such a science classroom, they just turn off the religious component of their brains, and when they step out of that environment, they can sit back and marvel over how they see G-d's hand in it all.
Problem is, saying that evolution 'happened as G-d intended' has zero explanatory power. It adds nothing to human knowledge.
How is saying that evolution 'happened as G-d intended', any different than saying 'evolution happened as evolution causing pixies intended'?
Neither choice has any more evidence than the other. They both require something not in evidence. Natural explanations for evolution are entirely supported by evidence.
You are making a false equivalency here.
Quote:No matter what the atheist or theist claims, there is no test to demonstrate to the satisfaction of the other side whether G-d does or doesn't exist. You cannot prove the theist wrong, and the thesit cannot prove you wrong. And since that's the case, focus on what can be demonstrated scientifically and mutually agreed upon, and agree to disagree on the rest.
Wait a minute here...
You've been posting here for quite a while, and you still don't understand the atheist position? What gives?
Most atheists do not claim to know, with absolute certainty, that a god does not exist. For most, the atheist position is that theists have met their burden of proof to support their claim that a god does exist. Until theists meet their burden of proof, I have no warrant to believe their claim.
I have zero burden of proof that your god does not exist. None.
I am just waiting for theists to prove they are right. Until then, my lack of belief is 100% justified.
Your lack of belief is 100% justified, but I also have zero burden of proof because I'm not asking you to change your position. It doesn't matter what anyone believes; those are just thoughts we have in our heads. They have no bearing on the world, and thinking G-d is or isn't real doesn't make it so. Regardless of how you think the world got here, the world is here, and we should deal with that first and foremost. How it got here is nowhere near as important as what we should do with it now that it is here.
And an atheist can claim to know something with absolute certainty, and that's fine. But that certainty doesn't transfer to me and to date, no atheist has been able to demonstrate to my satisfaction that G-d doesn't exist.
And they shouldn't have to. I just don't think that should be the point.
