(October 23, 2018 at 5:19 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(October 23, 2018 at 2:17 pm)Drich Wrote: that all you post amounts to.. charts, graphs, how other religions perform.. all crap.. you don't respect the bible for the same reason you personally attack anyone who can defend it. The bible represents a single attempt from God to reconcile with us, and if you can discredit the bible in your mind it is ok to also dismiss God. as you clearly think the two are linked.
(meaning God would not allow his holy writing to be disrespected, because you can= no God.) Even now your OP is riddled with attempts at failed logic/reason why you shouldn't believe, based on the idea that the bible should be more than it is. when in fact the bible is as valuable as any map. extremely valuable if the map is telling you how to get where you want to go and worthless if you have no desire to get where the map points! However it seems you think the bible is apart of God. that is a 6th century church idea that died with the reformation. Disrespecting the bible is not disrespecting God. challenging the bible is not challenging God.
What's more Challenging the bible and calling into question every aspect of belief and what the bible says is recommended in the bible itself. you not treating it as a holy book is nothing new and for those who really know the bible also know it is not God. it never claimes to be.
Wow, Drich. You couldn't have missed my point more. My OP doesn't say anything about "why you shouldn't believe." It was about why I don't take ancient religious texts seriously (with emphasis on the Bible). I was careful to say exactly what I meant.
I like ancient Greek philosophy, especially Plato. I think Plato's books contain a lot of valuable insights. But some of it is laughable. I also read ancient Hindu religious texts. Same there; plenty of insights to be had. But also plenty of logic fails and superstition. I plan on approaching the Bible as I would any ancient text. That means expressing respect for the insights, talking about the cultural origin of various stories, and (when it is warranted) LOLing at some silly shit. With this thread, I wanted to respond to some concerns Neo had voiced in the other thread without bogging that thread down with debate.
It's all well and good that you think it is okay to question the Bible. I will be doing that. But I won't be giving any absurd verses special treatment, as many Christians are prone to do.
I simply matured your initial thought on why you should not take the scripture seriously to it's ultimate conclusion... You associate God with the book. if you can crap on the book you can crap on God and any God you can crap on is not worthy of worship was the chain of thought I pointed out from your post..