RE: 13 days to Deermageddon
November 2, 2018 at 10:59 pm
(This post was last modified: November 2, 2018 at 11:06 pm by Amarok.)
(November 2, 2018 at 10:11 pm)Losty Wrote:From the perspective of an anti hunter (which i point out i am not ) one is worst then the other . Same as hunter would likely be sickened by a person eating a dog and the dog eater would likely be sickened by the cannibal . Thus for the anti hunter their is no hypocrisy in finding the idea of killing a deer in the wild immoral unless his critic is willing to look at their own prejudice .(November 2, 2018 at 9:34 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: As i already explained they can judge someone the same way you can judge a cannibal . As for the idea of how animals are treated that's a condemnation of how animals are raised not the general concept of rearing animals for food. I also will note that animals suffer horrifically in the wild . Overall it comes down to the question of your ethics on the acquiring of meat .
You didn’t answer the question. You said there’s a difference between raising an animal for food verses killing a wild animal for food and implied that one is worse than the other. Please explain the difference then.
We judge cannibals, to be completely honest with ourselves, because we value human life over other animals. People can deny it but it’s true for the vast majority of us. Maybe I’m an immoral. Maybe I’m a terrible person...but I do value human life over other animals. I also value dogs over cows and horses over lambs. I don’t know really know what exactly causes these feelings. It just seems like the more easily you can have a relationship with something the more important they become. For me at least.
My whole point of my original post was simply to point out bikers argument isn't a good counter to the condemnation of hunting .
(November 2, 2018 at 10:53 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:It isn't my "ethics" and my question is would or wouldn't you condemn the eating of domestic dogs or even people ?. If not does that not put you in the same category as the people you condemn ?(November 2, 2018 at 9:34 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: As i already explained they can judge someone the same way you can judge a cannibal . As for the idea of how animals are treated that's a condemnation of how animals are raised not the general concept of rearing animals for food. I also will note that animals suffer horrifically in the wild . Overall it comes down to the question of your ethics on the acquiring of meat .
Your " ethics" are somewhat suspect.
You'e willing to eat an animal that was raised for your dinner table. An animal with no freedom and no choices. Odds are it didn't even get the chance to reproduce. You abdicated it' s demise to some unknown agent so you wouldn't even have to face it' s death or soil yourself with it' s blood.
I'd call that lazy, self serving and dishonest.
Perhaps you should become a vegetarian.
(November 2, 2018 at 10:47 pm)wyzas Wrote:Good point and i love spiders that person is just dumb(November 2, 2018 at 10:24 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Yes i grew up hunting and when i go north i still do . Note i'm not objecting to hunting just pointing out it's a bad argument to compare domestic animal rearing to hunting .
A better argument might be based on how skilled the hunter is. Domestic is almost always an instant death, hunting............ well, I sure you've seen the manglers.
(November 2, 2018 at 10:43 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t understand the desire to kill things.
I need to introduce you to my wife.
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