(November 11, 2018 at 10:52 am)Huggy74 Wrote: I guess Jormungandr has no response...
Why you guys continue to act like I don't post receipts is beyond me.
(November 2, 2018 at 3:20 pm)Dragonfly Wrote: @Huggy74
"You've been here all of five minutes, what I'm saying isn't assumed, it comes from reading various posts by suicidal and/or depressed athiest members over the years. Atheism has a suicide problem..."
I've been here all of five minutes? I started the thread. Not sure where you're coming up with five minutes.
Every culture, every religion has depressed and suicidal people. If atheism DOES have a suicide problem, why are you assuming that it's their lack of belief in god causing it?
I got side tracked...
What I meant was, you're new here so you haven't seen some of the posts I was referring to.
There is a scripture I'm sure you are familiar with "man shall not live by bread alone"...
What this means is that food is not all that's required for us to sustain life, there is a spiritual man that needs to eat too, except he subsists on spiritual things.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. - Galatians 5:22-23
One cannot have love, joy, peace ect., if he is suicidal and/or depressed. How you achieve those things is by loving your neighbor, by being selfless. By doing things for others is one fulfilled.
Atheists are starting to realize their lives are missing something and hence are starting churches in order to have that sense of 'community'[from the word communion]...
The irony being the bible give you the instructions on how to find what you're looking for, but everyone seems to have to do their own thing. So when you stated:
(November 10, 2018 at 2:29 am)Dragonfly Wrote: I tried to fit myself into various belief systems. I've tried to bolster my belief. I asked others to pray for me. I explored. I've prayed, begged, cried, tried, etc., even praying month after month this year: God, please show me who you are, and help me to believe in you. If you are holy, then help me to be like you. If I am resistant to truth, then please help soften my heart and help me to desire to be like you and draw closer to you.
Can you honestly say you've followed the simple instructions laid out by the bible, of which there are only two?
Yes, I can.
And sure one can have love if they're depressed. Depressed people still love their friends and families. When you refer to depression, you haven't specified whether you're talking about the "blues" or clinical depression. I hope you're not suggesting that all depression is a simple matter of not loving your neighbor enough or being selfless enough. If you are, you really need to get educated about depression.
"By their fruits ye shall know them."
So if I were a Christian, I'd be wondering how your posting here demonstrates love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance. Pretty self-righteous and hypocritical of you to try to hold others to a standard that you do not meet. According to this passage, you are a barren tree.
And once again, thanks for hijacking my thread. You've shown yourself to be a selfish asshole who doesn't care about boundaries or helping anyone, only trying to "win." In many ways, you've helped me settle into my non-belief.
I said to the sun, tell me about the Big Bang.
The sun said, 'It hurts to become.'
~Andrea Gibson
The sun said, 'It hurts to become.'
~Andrea Gibson