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Just Look at all Those Fulfilled Prophecies!
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RE: Just Look at all Those Fulfilled Prophecies!
(December 4, 2018 at 4:47 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: The equivocation fallacy in an attempt to obfuscate is yours. "God" is not a title (or a government) but a being. 

It is also apparent that you believe in three gods (small g) since you think these three divine beings are separate. 
Ah... no.
The word in the bible is not english so the hebrew trumps the english understanding. The word in question in El ohim. which loosly translates to the word god small 'g' denoting dictionary.com 2 definationSadin certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.

From dictionary.com

This is demonstrated by the singular translation of any deity from any culture or time period. EG greek gods gods of rome gods of egypt alah is also known as a god or the god for muslims. The word God in all forms is a title by nature. This is even true in christianity as in God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

Now the question arises it is approeiate to refer to a being or deity by title. sure we do this all he time in the english language, Mr president or the president or simply "doctor". It is perfectly normal and everyday ediquet to refer to a doctor by title only or a senator or again the president. So the question is to whom do we often refer to when addressing title only? We address the Father as he is the God head or executive branch. So when we say God capitoal G it refers to the Father but again can be used to describe the Son and the Holy Spirit.

We know this because of Genesis 1:1 and our good book's book, the blue letter bible.. you know the book that obliterated you BS about which herod was the herod of the gospel of luke.. Hehe

so looking at genesis 1:1 we see 'elohiym or generic word God which could describe any number of God's but here it is capitalized and thus refers to the Father. So 1:1 of genesis God the Father creates...
https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/s...rimary_0_1

Now turn to Genesis 2: we have the first use of an actual name being used it's not elohim but Yahweh or in the hebrew Jehovah which is the NAME of God.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lex...3068&t=KJV

So to sum up chapter one generic term or the title God/'god' is being used which a nod to the Father Himself and chapter 2 Jehovah the literal name of God the Son is being used.

Quote:God
  1. the one Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe.

  2. the Supreme Being considered with reference to a particular attribute:the God of Islam.

  3. ( lowercase ) one of several deities, especially a male deity, presiding over some portion of worldlyaffairs
  4. ( often lowercase ) a supreme being according to some particular conception:the god of mercy.
  5. Christian Science . the Supreme Being, understood as Life, Truth, Love, Mind, Soul, Spirit, Principle.
  6. ( lowercase ) an image of a deity; an idol.
  7. ( lowercase ) any deified person or object.
  8. ( often lowercase Gods, Theater .
    the upper balcony in a theater.the spectators in this part of the balcony.
this is you again ignoring the truth in that the hebrew's use of the word God is split into a generic term as well as a title for God the Father and the Son and Spirit.

Quote:And given that you believe in three lower case gods, that makes you a polytheist. Should I look up that definition or are you good? 

Equivocate as much as you like.
it's called exegesis.. that word describes a critical explanation or interpretation of a text, especially of scripture.

Your failure. you assume by defining God in english you have primary source/supported your assertion. meaning I have no other logical recourse.

Here's the thing sport...

The bible was not written in english originally, so the words we must turn to and define to obtain original intent (not contextual translations/what people who only ever spoke english in their lives don't typically understand) Original intent can only be found by seeking the original words and see how they are used. So when you turn to the hebrew we clearly see Elohim is a generic title assigned to any general deity, per genesis 1:1 and the definition of the word elohim.  however because the word is a title that describes a supreme being in this case the head of the trinity, it can and is also used to describe the God the Father. simply by Calling the Father by his title.

We also God's name is not God it is Yahweh which translates to Jehovah which through the NT we find out this is also a name of Christ Himself.

So again when we turn to the original script we see God's name is not God but Jehovah and we find out that even the HEbrews used the term god to simply describe a general deity title but in turn also used the term in reverence to describe the Father.

So you turning to the dictionary means next to nothing as it is not a canonical source and can be dismissed when a canonical source contradicts it's definitions.

So.. your objection has been rightfully dismissed.
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(December 5, 2018 at 11:09 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(December 4, 2018 at 4:29 pm)Drich Wrote: or more specifically do you know what equivocation is? it is intentionally seeking a wrong definition to make or underscore a point.

That's a rather idiosyncratic definition of equivocation.  Can you back that up?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation

If you been using it any other way it seems that you may have misunderstood the word every time you used it. The best example I've seen given on the example is abbot and costello's bit "who's on first."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTcRRaXV...&t=28&t=30
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Messages In This Thread
RE: Just Look at all Those Fulfilled Prophecies! - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 12:13 pm
RE: Just Look at all Those Fulfilled Prophecies! - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 2:22 pm
RE: Just Look at all Those Fulfilled Prophecies! - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 4:29 pm
RE: Just Look at all Those Fulfilled Prophecies! - by Drich - December 5, 2018 at 3:17 pm
RE: Just Look at all Those Fulfilled Prophecies! - by Drich - December 5, 2018 at 4:06 pm
RE: Just Look at all Those Fulfilled Prophecies! - by Drich - December 5, 2018 at 4:42 pm
RE: Just Look at all Those Fulfilled Prophecies! - by Amarok - December 5, 2018 at 7:55 pm
RE: Just Look at all Those Fulfilled Prophecies! - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 1:54 pm

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