(December 5, 2018 at 11:23 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:it is an observation The bible does not speak of itself as it was not compiled while written. the bible does however speak of the scripture as a whole being given by God.(December 4, 2018 at 1:13 pm)Drich Wrote: The bible is a map that tells you how to approach and find God.
Where in the bible does it say this?
14 But you should continue following the teaching you learned. You know it is true, because you know you can trust those who taught you. 15 You have known the Holy Scriptures since you were a child. These Scriptures are able to make you wise. And that wisdom leads to salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is given by God. And all Scripture is useful for teaching and for showing people what is wrong in their lives. It is useful for correcting faults and teaching the right way to live. 17 Using the Scriptures, those who serve God will be prepared and will have everything they need to do every good work.
Quote:Asserted, but not proven. I've listened to your arguments a long time, Drich, and they all fail by the same objection that Hume used in his argument against miracles. For any thing you can cite as evidence of God, there is a more probable natural explanation. That makes believing in God on account of your evidence irrational. A smart apologist would attack Hume, but I doubt you're that smart.
it is proven on an individual level. If the bible did not deliver ever it the religion would fall by the way side as every other unproductive religion on earth has. Which is why I say every viable religion is supported by something. It keeps it's promises. Every current religion does. the only question is can man manifest those answered promises or is it a god level thing.
Having a no intermediary relationship with God is God level only that is the center of this religion. if this promise was not full filled every single generation for the last 2000 years Christianity would be a mention like gnosticism.
