RE: First order logic, set theory and God
December 6, 2018 at 4:33 am
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2018 at 4:34 am by Belacqua.)
(December 6, 2018 at 4:19 am)Grandizer Wrote: The B-theory of time, for example, has the flow of time being an illusion and that nothing objectively precedes anything else. All moments in time just are ("past, present, and future"). In this case, if the B-theory of time is true, then this is not a problem at all for the B-theorist. The B-theorist can simply ignore this as it does not assume the B-theory of time.
As you know, what is logically prior need not be temporally prior.
If a logician says that space-time is logically or essentially prior to, say, hydrogen, it doesn't matter whether space-time appeared first in time and then hydrogen appeared later, or whether they appeared at the same instant.
So I'm not sure whether A-theory or B-theory would affect the argument.
Again, I'd like dron3 to clarify whether he sees this as a purely temporal argument. I think, maybe, we could say the car doesn't cause the steering wheel, even if there is no time at all.
(December 6, 2018 at 4:23 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: That doesn't mean I won't come up empty handed, but my chances go from 0 to possible.
And if we learn in the process why the argument is bad, then we have learned something.
It's better than rejecting it for no reason.