(December 10, 2018 at 7:59 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: What caused the quantum fluctuation?
what caused quantum fluctuations? hey moron there doesn't need to be a cause just like the so called uncaused cause you keep saying exists. Its basically in layman's terms mandated by the laws of physics that the law of conservation of energy be violated in a total vacuum
Quote:Unless you can prove the source, stop making nonsensical hocus pocus claims.
says the one claiming that there is an uncaused deity running amok creating universes all willy nilly out of nothingness while everything else needs a cause. Yet you have not offerred a shred of evidence to support it.
Quote:Even if you can prove on a small scale, you can't prove it on a mass scale. If you can't prove it on a small scale, then how the heck are you going to suggest that it was a large scale anomaly?
bottom line is if it can be proven to happen on a small scale which it has already been done, it shows that the law of conservation of energy can be violated, it having an effect or not on the universes existence is irrelevant either way.
Quote:Why aren't we observing these large scale anomalies today?
quantum fluctuations can only be observed on the quantum scale.
Quote:If what you said is true, then you should be able to demonstrate steps 1-6 and claim your noble prize for creating a universe, even if it's smaller than ours.
what does creating universes have to do with quantum fluctuations? the phenomena is already been demonstrated and proven by scientists long ago.
Quote:Even the journals suggesting these "quantum fluctuations" are saying they are "indirect" by testing them against light waves.
and it being measured using light proves what exactly? you're ignorance on how scientists do stuff?
Quote:Since this report in 2015, there have been additional studies showing the properties of light. I believe it was at MIT they made some observations that what demonstrated that light can travel much faster than we thought possible.
and thats relevant to what?
Quote:Anyway, we can make assumptions, and we can even form a hypothesis and try to test those assumptions
which you have failed to do just like anyone who has argued for the existence of a deity
Quote:but indirect observations don't equate to large scale observations, so even if you could observe you are still leaps away from it happening, especially in regard to energy and matter. It may very well be that there was a source for those fluctuations and that they weren't quite what we thought.
how do they not? there is nothing stating that indirect observation can't prove anything happening on a large scale
meanwhile you're position has zero evidence or anything behind it.