RE: How to discuss religion with believers?
December 19, 2018 at 10:15 am
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2018 at 10:18 am by T0 Th3 M4X.)
(December 19, 2018 at 4:30 am)ignoramus Wrote: We hear you GC. My point is that I can reject all science and it still won't make magic man any more likely...
Which is the subject of religion... Not whether science has disproven pink unicorns ...Let's get to the crux of it.
IMO, the crux is that we are trying to mix oil and water. You can't. I can personally respect you as a person and for having those beliefs, but it is not the atheists who are uncomfortable with just having faith. Some theists need to take it further and PROVE that their particular sky fairy is the one true one.
But I'm still happy to smile and nod a lot ...That's just me.
If you imply a fallcy to the question, then how can you except an answer that isn't fallacious. What "sky fairy?" If nobody claimed a "sky fairy", then where did you get the term from? If you define something differently than what the other person defines it, then how can you expect them to explain whatever it is? That's why in any good research, you must define the subject/variables you are discussing. Even in a debate setting, typically one of the first things you'll see is the subject(s) of debate will be defined. Sometimes this is done by a moderator or the person making a positive claim about something who is actually debating.
(December 19, 2018 at 10:11 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: "Plus, why would a "koala" had to have been on the ark?"
You're right, Satan put them there.
Again, another fallacy. Once you start with the "Satan put them there", then you've indicated you are not ready for serious discussion because nobody is asserting it besides you. It's self-defeating.