RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails
December 23, 2018 at 11:47 pm
(This post was last modified: December 24, 2018 at 12:18 am by Maketakunai.)
(December 23, 2018 at 10:09 am)Jehanne Wrote:(December 23, 2018 at 2:58 am)Maketakunai Wrote:
I'm glad you're happy. Kudos for asking a relevant question! My answer is actually... "I don't know what the answer is, but I know what the answer isn't." In fact, I'm not even sure that more laws will be the answer, and here's why.
Laws provide moral guidance in any society; laws also force those who break them (except for criminal cases) to at least be willing to commit perjury.
You don't particularly like the laws that are already in place to give moral guidance in our society. This seems to be a key point in your argument, so it's not a very effective one. That makes you an immoral person according to your own philosophy. Considering that no one needs to commit perjury to discriminate, it's also just not very well thought out.
Example: A landlord requires that rsidents make 3 times the cost of the apartments rent per month. The transgender community has a very high unemployment rate. So, whether or not a landlord likes transgenders, if they cannot provide proof of the income requirement like everyone else they simply don't qualify for a lease. Even if that landlord hated transexuals to the very core of his being, he would not be committing perjury to say that a transexual did not meet the financial requirements to rent an apartment in his building because they have no verifiable income. As long as he enforces that policy fairly it is not discrimination.
As I said before, laws that protect you also protect everyone else, If our trans person tried to sue that landlord in this kind of scenario alleging discrimination they would probably lose. Additionally, they would probably have to pay for the cost of the lawsuit and hope like hell there wasn't a countersuit.
You seem dedicated to the notion that passing more laws will keep people from discriminating against you in spite of the laws we already have on the books to keep people from discriminating against you. It should be pretty obvious that laws are only as effective as the willingness to enforce them. So, if your position is that passing new laws will be effective because no one is willing to enforce the laws we already have then I suspect there will be even more disappointment in your future.
So... good luck with that.
(December 23, 2018 at 8:13 pm)Amarok Wrote:(December 23, 2018 at 10:09 am)Jehanne Wrote: Laws provide moral guidance in any society; laws also force those who break them (except for criminal cases) to at least be willing to commit perjury.... he has is "I got nothing but no more laws " all the while siding with an ideology that has not only done nothing for the trans community but has openly attacked it.
Let's be clear douchebag...
I've come out on the side that's saying the trans community needs to help it's own more and stop being perpetual victims. My ideology is that they work together to find solutions for themselves instead of attempting to pass more ineffective laws that have a history of not working.
How in the actual fuck is it hateful to say "What you've been doing clearly isn't working out very well and it might be a good idea to try something that has already proven to be effective."
You are a fucking moron!