RE: Is atheism a belief?
December 27, 2018 at 9:01 pm
(This post was last modified: December 27, 2018 at 9:07 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 27, 2018 at 8:44 pm)Belaqua Wrote:(December 27, 2018 at 8:08 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I was an atheist before I had any solid convictions about evidence, and even today, questions of whether or not some fucking fairy created the earth..as a gnostic atheist, don't have much bearing on my atheism.[...]
Here is a typical claim about God, which would be familiar to any Neoplatonic Christian, from Augustine to Simone Weil: "All good in the world derives from and ultimately points back to the form of the good, which is God."
I assume you reject this claim. Would it be correct to say that you find it to be nonsense?
When you reject it (if you do) do you have reasons to reject it? Or do you reject it out of habit, or for no reasons?
Well..sure. I'm many decades older now than I was then. I understand what's being said....today, and reject it, today, from my perch as a gnostic atheist. If you asked my five year old self..though, I'd have just said something like:
"Cool story" - and not believed you. No particular reason, no understanding of neoplatonist christianity or the vast inanity of christian belief...no reason whatsoever, really...I just wasn't the believing type. I was an atheist, then, because I just didn't believe in god stories. I'm still an atheist, today...but not the same kind of atheist as I was then. Just as many of the folks on these boards are atheists, but not atheists like I am. I really can't stress this enough...if you have an issue or objection to gnostic atheists, like me, with positive beliefs about the nonexistence of gods...then here I am. Ask and or lob away. The rest of these folks just aren't the droids you're looking for. You're wasting your time (and tanking your credibility) insisting that they hold the same position that I do. They don't. Understand?
-and we're still just discussing the minute sample of abrahamic gods, above....aren't we?
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