What do moderates think Jesus died for?

[Alan V]

So Max and Thoreauvian ... there is no free will for either of you?

Actually, I have argued in favor of free will at several different atheist forums. 

Above I wrote, "As I have already pointed out, we have no real choice.  Even in relying on someone or something other than ourselves, we are relying on our own assessments and interpretations of them.  It's inescapable." I didn't mean that in the sense of having no free will in the matter. We can always choose something irrational, even when rationally we are constrained to just one choice.

The fact that we are always relying on our own assessments and interpretations is really just another way to say we do have free will. We do things for reasons and not merely because of physical causes.