RE: What do moderates think Jesus died for?
January 16, 2019 at 11:22 am
(This post was last modified: January 16, 2019 at 11:23 am by Acrobat.)
(January 15, 2019 at 6:50 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:(January 15, 2019 at 1:02 am)Acrobat Wrote: I’m not defining your personal beliefs, I’m defining terms, along the lines that these terms have been defined by other atheists.
You said atheism is not agnosticism, while many atheists would define themselves as agnostic atheist. By this sort of implication, of the meaning of terms, you’d fall into the bracket of an ignostic atheist, whether you like that label or not. Your personal feelings have nothing to do with it.
Quote:You said atheism is not agnosticism, while many atheists would define themselves as agnostic atheist.
Non-sequitur ... so what ? They are two different concepts.
It appears you don't actually know what the terms mean.
Go re-read the definition of igtheism. Given that definition, "ignostic atheism" is an oxymoron.
(January 15, 2019 at 1:02 am)Acrobat Wrote: I’m not defining your personal beliefs, I’m defining terms, along the lines that these terms have been defined by other atheists.
You said atheism is not agnosticism, while many atheists would define themselves as agnostic atheist. By this sort of implication, of the meaning of terms, you’d fall into the bracket of an ignostic atheist, whether you like that label or not. Your personal feelings have nothing to do with it.
Quote:You said atheism is not agnosticism, while many atheists would define themselves as agnostic atheist
A non-sequitur. So what ? If they say they are agnostic atheists, BOTH terms have specific meanings.
Ignostic atheism is an oxymoron ... read the definition of ignosticism.
(January 15, 2019 at 1:02 am)Acrobat Wrote: I’m not defining your personal beliefs, I’m defining terms, along the lines that these terms have been defined by other atheists.
You said atheism is not agnosticism, while many atheists would define themselves as agnostic atheist. By this sort of implication, of the meaning of terms, you’d fall into the bracket of an ignostic atheist, whether you like that label or not. Your personal feelings have nothing to do with it.
Ignostic atheism is an oxymoron.
Read the definitions
Atheism and agnosticism are separate concepts. If someone chooses to use them together, they still remain separate concepts.
Ignostic atheism is an oxymoron.
Atheism: a lack of belief in God
Ignostic: someone who lacks a belief in God, because he doesn’t even know what the term God means, or finds it too ambiguous, or incoherent.
Ignostic: an atheist, whose reasons for their lack of belief is incoherency of the term God/s.
Ironically in your own bio, you refer to yourself as an atheist as well: “Will be one of their first atheist grads”
So pardon me for referring to you as an atheist, even though you referred to yourself as such.
Boom. Mic drop.