RE: Beating women in Islam
January 19, 2019 at 5:20 pm
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2019 at 6:18 pm by Brian37.)
(January 19, 2019 at 5:01 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(January 19, 2019 at 4:27 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Why is Trump president? Why is Bibi whom is an corrupt asshole PM of Israel? Why is Iran lead by a bunch of dicks? Why is Kim Jong Un leader of North Korea?
Because unfortunately humans can be manipulated, and once the powers that manipulate them get power, it is harder to remove them.
The world is built and constructed on a weak system, criminals rule and their influence grow, take Putin, to Trump, passing by the rightist mobs in Europe down to Saudi Arabia. Let's not forget Africa that is almost forgotten now.
MBS is gaining ground because he has support from sides in the already corrupt world.
Korea's Kim is the same.
There's a group of multi-cultural assholes supporting each other to satisfy eathothers' interests. And most deals they make are with a very, very painful consequences on a large portion of the people.
Instead of thinking in religious terms, which is where most people think their morality is magically handed down to them, think in natural terms.
If you would rightfully agree that many Christians and Jews see you as the enemy, and unfortunately they do, what makes more sense to you? Are they basing that on the fact that you are Charles Manson or Ted Bundy? Or are they basing that on the fact that they, like Muslims, are basing that on religion?
If you go out every day and rape and murder women, or children, like a serial killer, I'd hate you too. But, if you are not doing that, then all our species beefs really amount to tribalism.
(January 19, 2019 at 4:20 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(January 19, 2019 at 3:45 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Atlass, I can agree with your objection to the tyranny ruling over you. I don't like your rulers any more than you do. But again, lets say America says, "Lets invade Saudi Arabia". Problem is you live there, and could end up an innocent death.
I don't want you dead. In fact, the fact that you risk your safety posting on this website knowing if you got discovered could end you up in prison or dead.
I want the same for my fellow humans who live in oppressive states, not just Saudi Arabia, but Iran and North Korea too. I want them to live in a free society where they can object to their rulers, and remove them through systems of checks and balances when that ruler overreaches their power.
But, unfortunately in reality, and especially in the age of nukes, considering both friend and foe have them, it isn't as simple as invasion or toppling a government just because you don't like them.
Again, I also don't like Iran's rulers and I don't like Bibi either, just like I hate Trump.
I can't begin to imagine what you dodge every day as far as fearing detection. I am sure it is on par as Ann Frank being detected by Nazis. All I want you to know is, that not everyone in the west ascribes to our right wing bigots.
It still for me ultimately amounts to all 7 billion humans are the same species.
If you really want out of there there are human rights organizations like Amnesty International that could help you.
The change must come from the inside of the Arabian Peninsula -AKA Saudi Arabia-; the voices against the Sauds are multiplying in number, but the brutality of the Sauds under MBS increased too; now we finally reached the point where speaking against the government can get you -and get your family with you- into a long torturing journey that would end in death.
MBS doesn't want to back down. I don't want to be invaded, Brian, but why is MBS still a free man? that's what I always ask.
I don't have any plan to escape this place. Ihttps://exmuslims.org/ tried New Zealand then Canada, both didn't have official places to contact in cases like mine, I wouldn't bet on Amnesty but I will try. Contacting somebody about this is very hard when you're alone with a computer only, I would appreciate any help you can give, Brian.
Why isn't Trump in prison? Why isn't Kim Jong Un in prison?
Power unfortunately.
https://donate.amnestyusa.org/page/26346...gIs4_D_BwE
https://exmuslims.org/
https://twitter.com/ayaan?lang=en
https://twitter.com/cemb_forum?lang=en
Those orgs will not care if you are still Muslim, but if you contact them, the have far more power/resources than I do and are more likely to be able to help you.
And it cant hurt to tell your story to any other media in the west, like CNN or MSNBC. You got our attention here, but this isn't a powerful website as far as money and power.
Just keep plugging to anyone and everyone in the west you can think of.
