(January 19, 2019 at 5:30 pm)Yonadav Wrote:(January 19, 2019 at 5:09 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You have been arguing in this thread that abortion is a complex issue.
I am saying the only pragmatic argument is to make it safe.
Life is a crap shoot. A birth can lead to a Martin Luther King Jr or a Hitler, and history shows both happen.
My argument is not to focus on abortion being an option, which it should be, but to prevent it focus on society long term. Focus on economics and health care and family planning. Point is, the more stable a society is, the less likely you are going to end up with desperate people be it local crime, or an abused child who grows up to become a despot like Hitler.
Actually, I haven't been arguing that abortion is a complex issue. Reproductive 'rights' are a complex issue. I argue against using rhetoric that confuses the issue. In regard to abortion, arguing the facts is sufficient to carry the matter in favor of a woman's right to an abortion. This is the factual basis of the law. It is what the law says. The most popular rhetoric misrepresents the facts and confuses other reproductive and parental issues.
Cut the crap, there is no difference.
This is just word salad on your part.
Abortion is a decision made upon your body, your private parts, your reproduction.
If your goal is to produce more wanted babies, and reduce unwanted pregnancies it isn't as simple as "don't do it".
The long term picture amounts to ALLOWING the individual female to make their own decisions. Beyond that it is about ECONOMICS AND EDUCATION.
