RE: On the subject of Hell and Salvation
January 21, 2019 at 6:16 pm
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2019 at 6:21 pm by GrandizerII.)
(January 21, 2019 at 12:42 pm)tackattack Wrote: Where you went wrong, bolding by me.
(January 17, 2019 at 5:41 pm)Grandizer Wrote:" For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus "-Rom 2
That plus sin being a choice or act of volition, it requires reason and intent to sin
And because of the difficulty of that, coupled with ...
"How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher?" -Rom. 10
It evidences the reason why we share an easy way out of ignorance and are called to share God.
I still don't see anything I said wrong here. According to Paul, do you think having the law in one's heart can prevent one who is born in sin to fall short in God's eyes? Here's the answer given in Romans 3, which continues from the stuff Paul said in Romans 2. Bolded mine.
Romans 3:
Quote:What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. 10 As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one;
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there is no one who understands;
there is no one who seeks God.
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All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”
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“Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”[c]
“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”[d]
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“Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”[e]
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“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
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ruin and misery mark their ways,
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and the way of peace they do not know.”[f]
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“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”[g]
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
As for Romans 10, exactly. You're not saved if the Gospel does not reach you. Hence, the need for preachers.