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Thoughts and not prayers.
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RE: Thoughts and not prayers.
(January 27, 2019 at 8:23 am)tackattack Wrote: Praying for someone isn’t about convincing a puppet master to pull some strings or make a c note magically appear in your wallet.
But... it is though... What could possibly be the point of prayer otherwise? God has a plan, right? His plan is set before you were born, right? (Matt 10:29-30) You're asking him to change said plan, no?

(January 27, 2019 at 8:23 am)tackattack Wrote: It is a Christians way of guiding someone lost into a relationship with our God. It isn’t a substitute for practical solutions and good will, but often times there is little physically that can be done.

But again, you're praying to intercede in God's plan, unless you believe that God's plan is always in line with what you pray for. And that means that anyone that would pray for something contrary to what you prayed for is... misguided? A heretic? Not sure.

(January 27, 2019 at 8:23 am)tackattack Wrote: https://www.instagram.com/p/BnRcBSGFLbb
Even this doesn't necessarily attest to the power of prayer. A more explanatory solution is that a suicidal girl was surrounded by a lot of people who showed love and that they cared for her, and this caused a predictable reaction. It likely did absolutely nothing whatsoever to address the underlying reasons she was suicidal in the first place, but that showing of love and support was definitely intercessory.

(January 27, 2019 at 8:23 am)tackattack Wrote: If you are that offended by Christians praying to thank God for their food order reach out with a compassionate heart by praying for you that I was suggest some serious introspection. If you really don’t believe that God exists in that prayer is just people mumbling kind words to the air why would it be offensive? I just don’t get it man

I don't think anyone has said they are offended by meal prayers. Except Brian, but he's the literal definition of an outrage junkie. He's offended by everything, and spins out into an all caps rage anytime anyone dares disagree with his outrage.

Rather, the point---which you have failed to address---is that the idiom "thoughts and prayers" has social context that you are (perhaps intentionally?) ignoring. It's not offensive, but rather it's insulting as the only response when there is something you could do and are spouting it on Twitter in lieu of affecting real change that could actually help.
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Messages In This Thread
Thoughts and not prayers. - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 24, 2019 at 6:14 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by LadyForCamus - January 24, 2019 at 7:04 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by onlinebiker - January 25, 2019 at 1:59 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 25, 2019 at 3:22 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 24, 2019 at 7:06 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Anomalocaris - January 26, 2019 at 3:53 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by The Valkyrie - January 27, 2019 at 8:51 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 24, 2019 at 7:24 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 24, 2019 at 7:55 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by tackattack - January 25, 2019 at 3:30 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 26, 2019 at 8:25 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2019 at 3:38 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by onlinebiker - January 25, 2019 at 4:14 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by SteelCurtain - January 26, 2019 at 3:46 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Brian37 - January 26, 2019 at 4:02 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Fireball - January 26, 2019 at 9:59 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by SteelCurtain - January 26, 2019 at 4:28 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Brian37 - January 26, 2019 at 5:31 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by tackattack - January 27, 2019 at 8:23 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Brian37 - January 27, 2019 at 9:14 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by arewethereyet - January 27, 2019 at 12:18 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Brian37 - January 27, 2019 at 3:49 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 27, 2019 at 3:35 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by unfogged - January 27, 2019 at 5:11 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Angrboda - January 28, 2019 at 1:27 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 28, 2019 at 1:52 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by SteelCurtain - January 27, 2019 at 12:26 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 27, 2019 at 2:01 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by The Grand Nudger - January 27, 2019 at 10:50 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 28, 2019 at 7:06 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by The Grand Nudger - January 28, 2019 at 8:53 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 28, 2019 at 9:12 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by The Grand Nudger - January 28, 2019 at 9:16 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by tackattack - January 28, 2019 at 11:41 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by The Grand Nudger - January 28, 2019 at 11:50 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 28, 2019 at 1:12 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by tackattack - January 28, 2019 at 2:16 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Angrboda - January 29, 2019 at 6:52 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by The Grand Nudger - January 28, 2019 at 4:12 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by tackattack - January 28, 2019 at 5:40 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 28, 2019 at 6:01 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Anomalocaris - January 28, 2019 at 5:46 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by tackattack - January 28, 2019 at 6:03 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 29, 2019 at 8:18 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by The Grand Nudger - January 29, 2019 at 12:23 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Shell B - January 29, 2019 at 1:44 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 29, 2019 at 6:34 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Brian37 - January 30, 2019 at 10:55 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by tackattack - January 30, 2019 at 10:36 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 30, 2019 at 10:45 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Angrboda - January 30, 2019 at 10:45 am
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by Anomalocaris - January 30, 2019 at 11:45 pm
RE: Thoughts and not prayers. - by SteelCurtain - January 30, 2019 at 8:56 pm

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