If it wasn't for religion

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I said eternal truths, telling me that killing is wrong because it’s violate some profound and eternal law, is  a bit more persuasive
than telling me killing is wrong because society thinks so.

Perhaps that's why society thinks so?  I mean, IDK if it's really all that profound or eternal..but it seems like skullfucking people is a bad thing, and so it doesn't surprise anyone to find that there are skullfucking prohibitions in every society.  

And their version of reality lacks any moral aims and purposes, doesn’t convince a man to take the hand off of his brother neck, or laddle benediction on the heads of strangers rather than curses.

All their version of reality tells us is all is permissible.

Imagine that this were true, and then tell me how to distinguish between the failures of that camp and any other, say the religious camps..with their endless fraternal war?

It would be unfortunate if mere reality were insufficient as a moral basis, but if that were so.... then that would be so.  It wouldn't certify the truth of a superstitious morality.  You're only telling us that if your superstitions turned out to be false, which they certainly are, then you couldn't be compelled to decency.  Where others see a world of right and wrong, you see only a free-for-all.

Generally, I doubt that this is true of anyone.  I'm inclined to believe that you and others who say similar things are mistaken about yourselves in this regard.....bluntly, I see you pointing to moral facts as though they established the supernatural.  This suggests that you at least see the moral dimensions of mere reality.  

OFC, I can only object with so much force, if you and they actually are some sort of sociopath...and you would endlessly reassert the above..well, then so be it?  I hope you remain superstitious?

I said a reality that posses moral aims and purposes, I didn't say superstitious, or supernatural, or whatever those terms might mean to you.

To say what if reality didn't posses moral aims and purposes, is a big if. It's sort like saying how would our behavior change if you found out your living in the something akin to the Truman Show, or that if you found out you're a brain in vat, or that you're a player in a video game, and everyone else is just a computer simulation, and not real beings, etc...

Even though this is would be quite unimaginable, if it actually were true it would probably have a dramatic impact on our behavior, and our relationship to others. 

Lucky for all us, we all seem to operate as if reality does possess moral aims and purposes, even if some of us refuse to acknowledge this because it's difficult to reconcile with other components of your worldview, and such can't particularly express it, without placing their own self-identifies in doubt. But internally, subconscious perhaps they operate with underlying belief such a reality, and would circle or gravitate towards those able to confirm these commitments, like MLK. 


A person who completely operated in denial of such a moral reality, would be akin to a sociopath, people we all would be weary about.