(January 28, 2019 at 11:40 am)unfogged Wrote: No, it doesn't say "all is permissible". It doesn't say anything at all.
Exactly, in a reality that says nothing at all, all is permissible.
Quote:What you are saying, in essence, is that you are unable to find any reason to be a decent human being without having some authority figure hold a carrot and stick over your head.
Did I say anything about an authority figure holding a carrot and stick over our head? I said a reality that posses moral purpose and aims.
It’s existence is not dependent on my beliefs, nor are it’s implications. The law of gravity, doesn’t require my beliefs to be applicable to me.
In fact any moral claim or statement from an atheists or anyone else, to not be reducible to the decorative frills of personal opinion, like your taste in food or movies, requires the existence of such a reality to make your moral pronouncement mean anything more than gibberish.
Atheists might struggle with a ton of cognitive dissonance trying to deny this but the very existence of dissonance, just confirms the implications of such a reality, even among those who think they don’t believe in it.
