If it wasn't for religion

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You believe in some [supernatural] God, no? Otherwise, what the hell have you been arguing for all this time?

Whatever you might mean by supernatural or God, is likely very different than what I mean. As result i hardly ever feel the need or necessity to argue for either.

Yes, we do need to resolve the issue I'm pointing out here, because I'm still not seeing the logical advantage theism has over atheism when it comes to objective morality.

The advantage is between those who believe that reality posses moral aims and intrinsic moral purpose, like MLK, and those that don’t.

Nearly all theist hold to such a view of reality, while most atheists deny it, regardless if they understand the relationship between this aspect they’re denying and their atheism.

How about you answer this question for me:

Why ought we not kill?

If you don't need to invoke a god to answer this question, then no need for any god.

I don’t need to evoke the name God at all. Reality tells us we ought not kill.

I’m merely disagreeing with those that suggests it tells us no such thing, that reality possess no moral properties, no intrinsic moral values, etc...