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How to discuss religion with believers?
RE: How to discuss religion with believers?
(January 29, 2019 at 12:34 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: God never describes itself as anything.  If it did, it might clear up the confusion that the worlds magic books perpetuate...though the religious would likely insist that it was a liar and that their magic books were still true, lol.

Hehe

here are 6 times where God is speaking and proclaims to be the alpha and omega describes what alpha and omega means (beginning and end) or is calling himself the beginning and end.
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Alpha-And-Omega


Verse Concepts


"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."




Verse Concepts

"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."




Then He said to me, "It is done I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost. "He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son.




When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man And He placed His right hand on me, saying, "Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.


Verse Concepts

"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me.


Verse Concepts

"Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last.

what does it mean to be the first and last, beginning and end alpha and omega?

It means no authority comes before, none comes after. God is.. whatever he wants to be. to be first says I can do _________ (fill in the blank) and the last means nothing no authority principle or law of man or nature can prevent him from filling in his own blank.

So can god create a rock he can not lift. Yes if he wants to and no if he does not want to. and so it goes with a boudless alpha and omega verses some poor omni max version of God who get tripped up by controdictions and word games.
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