How to discuss religion with believers?

[Drich]

@Drich
If denying this reality and its laws helps you sleep at night, then be it.

We've invested enough energy in trying to explain it to you and if 13 pages weren't enough, then there are only two conclusions:
1) you understood it but you deny it
2) you didn't understand it (in which case you are lost)

In either case, it's impossible to continue a conversation when you are refusing the very basics and just go back on your old replies.

Specifically in the latter case, if your god's assistance hasn't helped you understand a simple concept in 13 pages of in-depth explanations, then I'd rather not receive your "god"'s help at all. It might just break something that is working correctly right now.

I know you need your assessment to be true but your peers keep under mining your evaluation of me and the subject. again They get what I have said. while you have yet to even once out line my argument.

What you failed to do I have done repeatedly to your position. in that I have stated what you believe inorder to show I understand your arguements. then I take it a step further to show you what you need to understand to get to my point. Yours is a sin of pride in that you do not believe anything can exist outside your box of knoweledge, so you do not bother to take time to try and understand what I have written. 

This proves true because again your active peers not only have repeated my very own position using my numbers and explainations as their own, I was able to take them to the point you can not or will not understand. this is shown in 3 different angels of attacks all leading to you're all's collective false understanding of what God is.

Again you all wrongly assume God being all powerful must magic air into Gold at a 1:1 ratio. I said but what if he uses a mechanical means only using air? and even if air to gold is at a 1:1 ratio how much air is needed to fuel this mechanical means?

After all air does not automatically condense into gold on it's own. Even you said there would need be some sort of fission needed. but to stay true to your parameters only air can be used so this fission needs to happen with the restructure or breaking down of the air atoms and resorting them to make this fission/mechanical means to turn air into gold. again even if this is done to a 1:1 ration, how much air will be needed to full the conversion process?

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You realize that human beings wrote magic book, not a god..yes?  God is not speaking at any point in magic book, people are writing stories about a god speaking, and conveniently enough the god says those things that they would say.

Like I said, a god could come down here right now and folks like yourself would call it a liar and insist that their magic books were still true.

if he did not align himself with what was written then he would not be the god ofthe bible.. the bible tells us there are other being who take the roles of angels and deity when they are not. So without some standard how would you know this being who came down is indeed God? is magic tricks all you need? a little gold perhaps to line your bathroom? How would you know God if he came down and spoke to you? how could you discern God from satan?