If it wasn't for religion

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Some physical/material property of an act? “Stuff” so to say?

No, not "stuff so to say". Literally not stuff. How many times do I have to say it?

And not some existing non-physical/immaterial property?

I don't think so, no.

When will you be done fishing? How hard is it to simply realize that you're unfamiliar with atheism, or what atheist think. That you are unfamiliar with moral realism..and moral philosophy in general? That you haven't the slightest clue what secularism refers to? It's okay to have been wrong about something because you just didn't know about it. It's another thing entirely to persist in your own narrow minded ignorance after these things have been explained to you.

Dig deep, into your own moral schema...and try to find a way to do what a good person would do in your situation.

“The referent is some property or properties of an act.”

I don’t think we mean the same thing when we say “stuff”.

So I’ll ask the question again, without the word.

Are the referent properties of the act, material properties?

When will you be done fishing?

I’m just giving you the opportunity to clarify, so I don’t keep getting accused of misinterpreting you.