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are any of you honest enough to simply answer the question asked?
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RE: are any of you honest enough to simply answer the question asked?
(February 3, 2019 at 7:43 pm)Belaqua Wrote:
(February 3, 2019 at 6:28 am)Nomad Wrote: Up until the 1860s the rcc based their ideology on abortion on what they considered to be actual personhood*.  Hence why abortion was deemed legal by the church up to 13 weeks.

*A very subjective and unscientific approach was used, mainly dealing with the idea of ensoulment and when that happened.

That's interesting; I didn't know that. 

Dante says somewhere that the fetus isn't ensouled until it has reached a certain stage of development. (40 days...?) Because he thought a human soul requires a form more or less human-shaped to support it. But he doesn't connect this with abortion, and I didn't know that it was official church policy.

In Judaism, the Talmud says the embryo is mere liquid for the first 40 days. But even after that, the fetus is not a living person. They aren't a living person until at least half of them has come out into the air during birth. Then they have the legal protection of being a person. However, they aren't fully viable until they have lived 30 days after birth. Some Jewish people say that they aren't fully viable until after they have graduated from medical school.
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RE: are any of you honest enough to simply answer the question asked? - by Yonadav - February 3, 2019 at 7:59 pm

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