(February 13, 2019 at 11:34 am)Jehanne Wrote:(February 13, 2019 at 10:35 am)Drich Wrote:![]()
oh noes!! what will we do... oh, you said catholic belief.. yeah that's kinda been falsified when they put a pope over the church and told us he alone speaks for God. that whole precept is in trouble because it is the exact opposite of what Christ himself taught. Christ said we would need no teacher that no man would come between us each individual believer and God himself. The pope is such a man the bishops are such men the priests you must confess to are such men, the whole system is very unbiblical. There is nothing new in your statement as Catholicism has never aligned itself with scripture fully.
Protestants, at least for centuries, believed the exact same thing, namely, that there was a literal Adam & Eve. When I was growing-up in a fundamentalist, evangelical Christian church, I was taught Bishop Ussher's date of 4004 BC for the creation of the World and Universe, and few today hold to that one.
And I have shown using the bible how there could still be a literal adam and eve and it jive with evolution without changing either account.
he is 1/2 right. that was the time of the exodus from the garden.
All of chapter 2 is a garden narrative that is sperate from chapter 1 creation of the rest of the world.
in essence in chapter 1 God the father creates the world in a rough form and it is left to evolve.
in chapter 2 Jesus is said between day 3 and 4 to have created the garden adam and eve and everything else in the garden. So because adam was created day 3 he was the first man and eve was the first woman they had souls and they were slated to live forever with God in the garden. all apart of the 7 day creation God the father made in chapter 1 where man was made on day 6, also note man outside the garden was not given a soul.
Then chapter three is the fall of man. All I poin out here is there is no time line no set time between chapter 2 and chapter 3.. This means all the time you all need for evolution to work, could have very easily have played out all the way back to 4004BC or whatever date YECs are saying now.
Do you get that man in the garden Adam was separate than man made in the world on day 6? day 6 man had to evolve while adam was created complete. and lived with God for potentially hundreds of millions of years so that the outside world caught up with the garden picture/so outside man would be compatible with man made in the garden.
So 4004bc genesis chapter 3 happens and the rest plays out like history.