(February 14, 2019 at 10:59 am)Yonadav Wrote:(February 14, 2019 at 10:42 am)Brian37 Wrote: Good, so you voted for Obama? So why are you flipping out about a gay man running?
And as far as taxes, you do understand how government works? Obama cant do everything by himself.
A bill gets written by the House or the Senate, then goes to the other chamber for reconciliation, or it dies if it doesn't get enough votes. If a bill goes through both chambers, then it goes to the White House to be signed by the President, or vetoed. If it gets vetoed the congress decides to let it die, or they push it through with tweaks again, if it gets to the President the second time, they are bound by the Constitution to sign it.
I'd love to see the rich pay more in taxes. But our process of any LAW STILL getting passed resides on having enough support, and our concept in this country is you compromise. So the real failure was not Obama. The real failure is OUR VOTERS gave up as democrats under Reagan, and since then, we have failed to give enough pressure and support to keep the numbers up to a great enough degree so that we don't have to compromise.
Politics isn't about a hero being in office, politics is bottom up. It isn't enough to simply focus on one office, be it the President, or your Rep or your Senator. Long term success is about getting the numbers at every level to get to the point of your side controlling the narrative.
Democrats are great at showing up in Presidential elections. But that is not enough. The reason the GOP gets what they want, more often than not is because they think locally, state and national, every day, every year.
Dems long term, are not going to be effective, if we don't beat the GOP at the numbers game.
I'm not flipping out about a gay man running for office. I'm criticizing you for getting all excited about him, despite his incredibly thin resume. You're excited about him because he is a diversity candidate. You don't give a shit that he is an Ivy League elitist in a long line of Ivy League elitists.
Let's see how excited you get about this Richard Ojeda. He's Latino, but most people see a white guy when they look at him. He attended state university in West Virginia. He supports Medicare for All, legal weed, and wants to wage a campaign against political lobbies. He retired from the Army with the rank of Major and two bronze stars. He's certainly not an elitist. Be thrilled with him, Brian. I dare you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ojeda
Thin? So running a city is easy? How many public offices did Trump have prior to shitting on the White House? Show me Trump's service record?
I don't know what your problem is man. Richard is a Democrat too.
I really do not want a repeat of 2020 like Bernie and Hillary supporters.
Make you a promise, if Richard gets nominated, I will vote for him. But dems need to support whomever gets nominated. We cannot afford any purist bullshit.
8 years of Trump and a terrifyingly lopsided SCOTUS will sink us.
I forgot which founder said it, but, said something like "Surely we should all hang together, or hang separately."
I like this guy too, but it is early on. What need to happen is we support our nominee no matter who.
