(February 22, 2019 at 8:03 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(February 22, 2019 at 3:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: Satan was once at the head of that army
Nope. Again, GC, you embarrass yourself how little you know the Bible.
Ah, Lucifer was the greatest of the angels, he even walked in the Garden of Eden with God.
(February 22, 2019 at 3:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: God did not need an army to kick Lucifer out of heaven and send him hurling to earth.
FM Wrote:Well, there was somebody making violence in heaven Matthew 11:12 "From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence and the violent take it by force."
Since it wasn't Satan maybe it was just God, we all know how violent he gets.
Not the literal heaven, learn about what you look up on the net instead of posting blindly.
(February 22, 2019 at 3:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: By the way that means God tossed Lucifer from one dimension into another
FM Wrote:Well, that's just stupid and completely uncorroborated.
Your statement prove me wrong and don't come back with I made a claim first, it's ridiculous. Defend yourself boy.
(February 22, 2019 at 3:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: Also, Satan has no more power than God allows him to have as the Bible tells us.
FM Wrote:That's why there are dragons that have much more power than God allows them
Rev. 12:7 "There was war in heaven; Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels."
And somebody will destroy that Heaven and my guess it's Satan! Mathew 24:35 "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."
Also we we should note that the word in this verse comes from the Greek word ouranos which is the only word used for "heaven" in all the Gospels so no some stupid excuse of some other heaven.
The dragon is Lucifer, you are falling deeper into a ridiculous hole of intellectual obscurity.
The heaven and earth that is mention in Matthew's passage is this planet and it's atmosphere, and there is the possibility it could be all of the universe. God created it and He alone is the only one able to destroy it. Yet the place where God resides will not be damaged ie. another dimension. Your illiterate mind is showing. We also have only on word for heaven and it is the word "heaven," and can mean the atmosphere around the earth the vacuum of space or the place God resides, one word three places. So tell me are you actually this ignorant or are you just desperate in an attempt to disprove what I am saying.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
