On the subject of Hell and Salvation

[Abaddon_ire]

I suppose I have to wonder once again why you all bother having a "Christianity" section if you have no interest in discussing Christianity. If practically every argument you people engage in ends with "well why consider any of this without proof of God?" then there truly is no point in discussing any of this.

And there's our problem Mike, you cannot in any reasonable terms discuss christianty without establishing the validity of it's authority first, otherwise what differs it from all other religions, creeds and beliefs that you don't accept ?

You then go on to claim a special revelation about cancer cures, and claim a site (that you say ) is the only place (you are aware of)  that has true wisdom from god which of course was written by men, who you also claim to be liars, unless they agree with you, or you them.

Here's your challenge, try discussing the merits or truth of the christian faith without resorting to a godly authority, you can use the bible or any logical argument, but as soon as it requires any special revelation, or claim to be inspired by a god, then clearly you need proof that the author of that authority exists.

EDIT: I had a peek at your so called 'true wisdom' site, I have never seen such a mishmash of simple assertions, i can clearly see where you were indoctrinated from now, and i recommend everyone here has a look.

Well, I did have a look. Then a second. Then a third.

What I read was astonishing. Amazing, even.

Then I did some background checking and found confirmation of my initial reaction.

It is one of the biggest piles of unmitigated bullshit, delusional fantasy and outright lies ever assembled by a schizophrenic lunatic.

It's so out there that eventually, you can't help but start to laugh at the outrageous claims. I mean, having a house cat is idolatry? Really? And house pets in general are a huge government covert plot to turn us all on to bestiality? What the actual fuck?

I heartily recommend it to anyone needing jaw exercises, because your jaw will hit the deck so often, also because it becomes so side splittingly funny so quickly as you surf around it.

And what is Miles' opinion of this vast repository of absolute batshittery and wingnuttery? This...

"To be clear, practically everything I've written here I discovered for myself at this site. It's the only place I'm aware of that has true wisdom from God."

Holy shit!

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Who knows, perhaps you're all right and I'm completely incorrect in my assertions. Maybe what I've pointed to as proof actually doesn't qualify as such, and there is no way to reason your way to the existence of God on the basis of it. Could be.

In any case, I have no desire to continue posting in this thread. I've provided the same resources that were made available to me to everyone here, so anyone reading this has the opportunity to come to their own conclusions.

Hi Miles.

I have read your sources. They are nukking futs.

Even other christians think they are nukking futs. All of them.