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Road Rules and jerks.....
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RE: Road Rules and jerks.....
(March 4, 2019 at 10:56 am)PRJA93 Wrote:

2 States are promoting the zipper merge and 3 endorse it. Most states in the United States require merging traffic to yield to flowing traffic. I believe it's going to be like the metric system, great idea but a flop in the US.

Regardless of what you feel about me personally, or what intonations you read into the post, I'm not an angry driver. I also only drive about 45 miles per month on average (excluding family trips) have been t-boned 3 times and have had 1 speeding ticket in the 15 years since my oldest's birth. I also love my cruise control and lane diverge assist. I stated it was a courtesy and that I was usually courteous, but I've been called far worse than a dick by far better, so feel how you like.

In practical application, when merging and allowing merged cars on interstates or around road construction I usually apply the zipper method. It may cut congestion by 40% (mostly because it uses more of the available road), but I don't think it reduces crashes. I haven't seen crashes on merge ramps from people looking and merging into flowing traffic. I have seen 1 crash on merge ramps from blocking cars from merging in heavy traffic (he was rear ended because the other merger wasn't looking ahead). I've seen a metric shit ton of merging lane accidents from entitled merges not looking (cell phones will upset me a bit)or caring that there is a car in the active lane, or misjudging rate of travel and distance, or trying to forcibly nudge their way into traffic.

I cited those laws (actually just citations from the current drivers manual) specifically for the person claiming that state didn't teach how to merge properly.

(March 4, 2019 at 2:15 pm)LastPoet Wrote:
(March 4, 2019 at 10:04 am)tackattack Wrote: @PRJA93 "You're SUPPOSED to merge in at the last minute, and people who are in the unblocked lane are SUPPOSED to let people over. "
You're not supposed to let people over. The onus is on the car merging to fit into traffic,not traffic to allow for cars to merge. It is the polite thing to do, but not anywhere close to a legal or societal "supposed to".

Yeah, usually one has those upsidedown triangles signalling loss of priority (basicly a stop sign, without the need to actually full stop). Good drivers do alternate traffic, it's about matching speeds, one gets in, the other continues, another gets in, the next goes one and so on so on. It's the civil thing to do, but not everyone has the same sense.

specific instances with lights at feeds in bigger cities (like Atlanta north of me) do have feeder lights and they're not at the end of a merge ramp, they're at the beginning. other than that they do use alternating approaches and I find this is the best method personally. One car in the merge lane at a time, get up to speed, fit in, done. If traffic is stopped, one car in the merge lane at a time, get in when you have a hole, done. Lights always trump "unwritten courtesies". My examples out here in country twn are not for merger lanes with lights. I'd prefer if all merger lanes had lights but that's not feasible.
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Road Rules and jerks..... - by Brian37 - March 2, 2019 at 3:53 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Pat Mustard - March 2, 2019 at 5:17 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Brian37 - March 3, 2019 at 7:41 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 2, 2019 at 5:23 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by outtathereligioncloset - March 2, 2019 at 10:37 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by brewer - March 2, 2019 at 10:52 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 2, 2019 at 11:18 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by no one - March 2, 2019 at 11:48 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by fredd bear - March 3, 2019 at 12:11 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 3, 2019 at 6:32 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Brian37 - March 4, 2019 at 8:17 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 4, 2019 at 9:10 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Cod - March 4, 2019 at 11:54 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Brian37 - March 4, 2019 at 12:41 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 4, 2019 at 1:13 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by paulpablo - March 3, 2019 at 6:21 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by paulpablo - March 3, 2019 at 6:33 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 3, 2019 at 9:43 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 3, 2019 at 9:14 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by fredd bear - March 3, 2019 at 6:26 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by paulpablo - March 3, 2019 at 10:05 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Angrboda - March 3, 2019 at 10:25 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 3, 2019 at 11:51 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Angrboda - March 3, 2019 at 8:04 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 3, 2019 at 9:08 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Angrboda - March 3, 2019 at 11:26 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 3, 2019 at 11:38 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Grandizer - March 5, 2019 at 8:12 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 5, 2019 at 8:31 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 3, 2019 at 12:16 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 3, 2019 at 7:14 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 3, 2019 at 8:34 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by no one - March 3, 2019 at 9:14 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 3, 2019 at 9:16 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by fredd bear - March 3, 2019 at 10:31 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by no one - March 4, 2019 at 12:15 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by fredd bear - March 4, 2019 at 2:46 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Cod - March 4, 2019 at 8:40 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 4, 2019 at 8:44 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Brian37 - March 4, 2019 at 8:50 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Cod - March 4, 2019 at 8:50 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Pat Mustard - March 4, 2019 at 6:22 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by tackattack - March 4, 2019 at 10:04 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 4, 2019 at 10:07 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by LastPoet - March 4, 2019 at 2:15 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 4, 2019 at 10:20 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Jackalope - March 4, 2019 at 10:40 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by tackattack - March 4, 2019 at 10:46 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 4, 2019 at 10:56 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Yonadav - March 4, 2019 at 11:04 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 4, 2019 at 11:13 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Yonadav - March 4, 2019 at 11:25 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 4, 2019 at 12:07 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by LastPoet - March 4, 2019 at 12:11 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 4, 2019 at 1:04 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by LastPoet - March 4, 2019 at 1:19 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 4, 2019 at 1:37 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by tackattack - March 4, 2019 at 2:20 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 4, 2019 at 3:31 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by tackattack - March 4, 2019 at 5:50 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 4, 2019 at 10:26 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 4, 2019 at 2:34 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by tackattack - March 4, 2019 at 6:26 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 4, 2019 at 6:56 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 4, 2019 at 8:18 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by fredd bear - March 4, 2019 at 9:47 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by tackattack - March 5, 2019 at 10:17 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 5, 2019 at 10:28 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by tackattack - March 5, 2019 at 10:51 am
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 5, 2019 at 12:22 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by tackattack - March 5, 2019 at 3:04 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by EgoDeath - March 5, 2019 at 3:29 pm
RE: Road Rules and jerks..... - by tackattack - March 5, 2019 at 4:17 pm

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