RE: On the subject of Hell and Salvation
March 4, 2019 at 8:17 pm
(This post was last modified: March 4, 2019 at 8:23 pm by possibletarian.)
I don't think anyone can prove a god does not exist, especially if we are talking about a god that takes no interest in the universe or us, sometimes you just cannot prove the negative. For instance if I claimed there are penguins running around my living room it would be easy to prove there were not., so you can prove the negative.
However if i then make a mythical creature running round my living room up that has attributes like invisible, non material (spiritual) who only communicates with those who first believe he exists and blinds everyone else to his presence and claimed that was part of the creatures nature then clearly you would struggle.
This is the problem with god, he's timeless, non material, etc. who if you don't believe exists blinds you to his presence anyway and that is part of his nature, then you cannot prove he does not exist, this however gets us no closer to whether he actually does exist or not.
All the attributes I've heard of for god are so phrased as to make him indistinguishable from a man created god just like Allah, Visha, or many other gods, in fact ALL the attributes of god are written by men (who claim divine inspiration) but fail to show that's so.
I must assume an all powerful being, who's desire was that everyone turn to him would know how to make his existence known in such a way that it would be obvious, and that all other claims of god are fake. And that his 'holy' book didn't have to be explained in such an excruciating painful twisted fashion, and perhaps all those who believed sang from the same sheet (as it were). As it is the claims of god and no god are indistinguishable.
However if i then make a mythical creature running round my living room up that has attributes like invisible, non material (spiritual) who only communicates with those who first believe he exists and blinds everyone else to his presence and claimed that was part of the creatures nature then clearly you would struggle.
This is the problem with god, he's timeless, non material, etc. who if you don't believe exists blinds you to his presence anyway and that is part of his nature, then you cannot prove he does not exist, this however gets us no closer to whether he actually does exist or not.
All the attributes I've heard of for god are so phrased as to make him indistinguishable from a man created god just like Allah, Visha, or many other gods, in fact ALL the attributes of god are written by men (who claim divine inspiration) but fail to show that's so.
I must assume an all powerful being, who's desire was that everyone turn to him would know how to make his existence known in such a way that it would be obvious, and that all other claims of god are fake. And that his 'holy' book didn't have to be explained in such an excruciating painful twisted fashion, and perhaps all those who believed sang from the same sheet (as it were). As it is the claims of god and no god are indistinguishable.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'