Evolution and Christianity and Salvation

[Amarok]

What is the downside of protecting the environment?

crashing world economy billions starve.

If you don't want to crash the world economy the best thing to do is up the regulation of businesses and not start trade wars.
It is only vested interests in damaging businesses that wold be damaged the economy would change. In Europe petrol cars are being phased out, the cars will still be made. The power to run them would still need to be there they would just be less damaging.
So we don't want want to ruin the economy we want to make it less hurtful to the environment.

Even if all the climate scientists and the data that supports them turned out to be wrong and people stopped polluting and damaging the environment so much on the basis of incorrect data all they would have done is make the world better.

If they are wrong we are not doing anything determental. Do you know the story of chicken little? He got hit in the head by something that fell out of a tree and got the who barn yard up in a riot because he convinced everyone the shy was falling, when in fact there was nothing at all wrong.

Except in this case all the science supports there being life threatening climate change caused by man. You are like the man on the titanic saying everythings fine as the ship sinks beneath the wave.

The planet has been warming since the last ice and and will continue to do so not because of anything we do but because the sun is putting out more energy. We can't do anything about that.

Man is pumping Billions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each year CO2 is a greenhouse gas and its effects are well known. That the sun may also be pumping out extra energy is a reason for more drastic reduction in CO2 emission if what you say is true.

we can tax for that. so they claim the sky is falling and claim they can fix the world if you give up more of your money.

Or you could pollute less. recycle more. Bike to work don't drive, I cycle to work.

BUT the climate change deniers are told that the earth is dying, what needs to be done to save it and if they are wrong the world dies, but they are willing to take the risk.

1999 call and want your arguement back
People are not denying some change in the climate as it has been changing since the last ice age. what they are arguing is the cause. the primary cause of the recent spike in change is the melted glaciers that use to cover 2/3s of the north american continent. the migrating poles is the root caue of that as our magnetic shield is exposed now where it was not before.

So what you are saying is that in the past climate change deniers were saying that there was no change but the evidence was so overwhelming that they now accept there is change and the message is "well what are you gonna do?" well we have been telling you what to do and you just wont do it.

You are on the wrong side of history.

The problem with the sky is falling is as the glaceriers melt we begin to see the artic was once a vast tropical paradise. meaning the north pole and canada are supoosed to be or where at one time the amazon junggle, and it had to be much warmer then in our past, meaning we are alot colder than what use to be. or another way to look at it we are returning to normal.. and for this you want a tax???

Well its true that the earth has been hotter in the past. But as a human we are adapted to the climate we have now. Its true the world would survive with some life forms on it. They may just not be people.

Remember the natural state of this planet is to be oxygen free and much colder. Perhaps that's what you want.

I just don't get their mind set.

because you have been programed not to think anyway except the sky is falling with carbon credit/tax

No I accept the evidence that is presented by the experts. You seem to think your opinions are as good as facts.
They aren't.

How smart people understands climate change 
The earth has natural heating and carbon cycles that it can deal with though they may be destructive as opposed to the artificial heating going on now that the earth can't deal with and will continue to do damage till it stops and the only people to blame for carbon taxes are denialists for forcing the governments hand . 



How a stupid person understands climate change 
Durr it was warmer in the past Durr it's all an evil ploy to take away mah muney !!!!!

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Name a single eyewitness to any miracle whatsoever.

And then of course we have all the witnesses to "miracles" that were nothing to do with Christianity.

And any time a one has been properly investigated it has been shown to be mundane.

Basically there is no such thing as an actual miracle. People can be wrong about what they see or just lie but they aren't a thing that really exists.

The word miracle is just another word for ignorance