(April 18, 2019 at 5:44 pm)Shell B Wrote:(April 18, 2019 at 2:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Actually, the Crown was alluded to as a physically persevered relic as early as the third century.
I don't believe that the Crown at Notre Dame (or any of its various fragments scattered here and there) is genuine. But there's no real evidence that it isn't genuine.
Boru
So a few hundred years. Still suspect enough for me, but I do agree we can't disprove any of it.
THANK YOU! That's all I've been saying. I don't think the Crown is any more authentic than the Shroud of Turin (which we know is a fraud). I suspect the early Church fathers - Clement, Origen, a few others - who wrote about the Crown (never first hand) laid a nice foundation for later confidence tricksters to put together a Crown (or Crowns) and make a few fast drachmas. I can't prove any of this, but based on the history of other religious relics, it's a pretty safe assumption.
Boru
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