RE: I thought your god was keeping you safe
April 21, 2019 at 5:03 am
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2019 at 5:05 am by Lemon Curry.)
(April 21, 2019 at 4:46 am)Guard of Guardians Wrote:(April 21, 2019 at 3:47 am)Succubus Wrote: Could you list a few of these reasons.
And welcome to the forums.
#1 - The fact that the entire time-space universe came into existence a finite time ago. (Related to the Cosmological argument)
#2 - The fine-tuning of the constants and quantities of the space-time universe that make intelligent life even possible in this universe. (Fine-Tuning argument)
#3 - The complex information contained within DNA. (Intelligent Design and/or Teleological argument)
#4 - The applicability of mathematics to the physical world - the mathematical structure upon which the universe seems to be based. (Argument from applicability of Mathematics)
#5 - The reality objective moral laws & duties. (The Moral argument)
#6 - The historical reality and authenticity of the existence, death, and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. (Argument from the historicity of the salient details of the life, death, and post-death appearances of Jesus of Nazareth).
There are other logical arguments as well... Philosopher Alvin Plantinga can give well over two dozen arguments, few if any of which have been refuted. If the logical arguments go through, so that the conclusion follows directly from the premises, then they constitute genuine evidence, unless or until a substantive objection is made and can be sustained to demonstrate why the argument does not go through.
(April 21, 2019 at 4:39 am)Kit Wrote: All that has realistically happened is that theists have erroneously convinced (deluded) themselves into believing that they have evidence for god's existence.
That's an interesting assertion, but it doesn't happen to be true. The existence of God makes sense of the reality in which I live. The non-existence of God does not. Who's deluded?
Fuck, is that all you have?
Little wonder you believe in de lard.
You believe in Harry Potter, rocking horse droppings and fairies at the bottom of the garden too?
So your invisible mate got up one morning, about 13.8 billion years ago and created a universe that, actually, is very hostile to humans? That dismisses point #1.
The parallel universes theory with differently finely tuned constants dismisses point#2 and #4.
Because you don't know how DNA evolved doesn't mean it didn't naturally evolve and, even if it was a god what done it doesn't mean it was your god. That dismisses point #3.
Long before zombie boy jebus did't show up, we had laws. They developed quite naturally. They are a biological imperative. That dismisses point #5.
There is no evidence that zombie boy jebus ever existed. If you think that any REAL EVIDENCE exists, let's hear it christard. That dismisses point #6.
Class dismissed.
Oh, and christard, please come up with something better than this load of old bollocks. It's so passe.
I don't know whether I need a bottle in front of me or a frontal lobotomy.
