RE: Is slack a private social club and other issues my sorry ass has landed itself in
April 21, 2019 at 8:54 am
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2019 at 9:22 am by Angrboda.)
(April 21, 2019 at 8:18 am)Jello Wrote:(April 21, 2019 at 8:13 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Let me grant you your premises for the sake of argument. In what way was what I said racist?
You used a big ol' racial slur? A word that's inherently racist because of it's origins, and i doubt will ever be not racist when used by anybody who doesn't fit into the group it's aimed at?
Doubling down on your assertion doesn't help, jello. Simply repeating what you said doesn't make it true, unless you're ready to confess your sins to God and Jesus, because Christians have repeated their assertion that God exists many times. It doesn't make it true, and neither does your statement make it true that my statement is racist. And your argument that it's racist because it has racist origins just will not fly. That's an example of the genetic fallacy and a patently bad argument. "Somebody once used a gun to kill an innocent person therefore guns are inherently immoral" is a very bad argument indeed. And again we have the argument that black people have a right to use the language and white people do not. I'm not going to respond to that argument at the moment, but I strongly disagree. And black people or anybody else having "owned it" isn't a valid argument to my eye.
Try again, jello, or anybody else. (when you have time)
And this does indeed appear to be a case of "my people who think it is wrong are right and acceptable, and your people are simply wrong and unacceptable." Why that seems reasonable to anyone, if so, confuses me. But that seems to be the position that staff has embraced, and they seem to be doing nothing more than circling the wagons on this.
And I would like to add in the popular dictum that the answer to bad speech is more speech, not censorship. I have been censored and I don't think the staff are justified in doing so.
I feel like changing my title next to my avatar to something like, "I'm just an Asian nigger." How would staff feel about that? How about you, jello? Is that racist? It seems that would follow from what you've said. And that would mean that I was prejudiced and discriminatory towards myself. That's moronic and incoherent. Something is very wrong in Denmark. (Huggy references ftw!)
How about you, Thena? Would calling myself an Asian nigger be an example of me dehumanizing, demeaning and controlling blacks?
And I have reported Drich for a violation of the Prime directive for calling me a dragon lady. Let's see how fair this staff really is. I, personally, am expecting to hear crickets.
(April 21, 2019 at 8:18 am)Jello Wrote: As i was saying. You give someone an inch on this kind of thing, you'll have someone else making some really racist statements and then just going "oh it's a joke", meaning that if you punish them, they could pull up this case, if it went the way you want it to, and be like "Oh why are the staff being biased". You gotta be zero tolerance with things like racism. Shit sucks, but that's the way the cookie crumbles, friend.
This leads to a very obvious slippery slope, jello. Do we ban the use of the word yellow, if used as a description of an Asian person, because it could lead to abusive and discriminatory uses of it?