RE: Ex pastor explains how Christianity is fake
May 3, 2019 at 9:47 am
(This post was last modified: May 3, 2019 at 9:57 am by tackattack.)
(May 2, 2019 at 5:55 pm)madog Wrote: Mmmm, tell that to gays
I do, if it comes up in conversation. People's sex lives usually don't concern me and aren't usually topics I delve into.
(May 3, 2019 at 12:39 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:I do agree Anomalocaris, that an intentional choice to delude oneself is easier to propagate than one stemming from confusion. So what percentage of Christians do you feel possess this ongoing duplicitous malice t fuel their lies to the public?(May 2, 2019 at 4:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Why? In either case, if the belief is real, the religion is real, even if untrue.
Boru
Because a real belief resulting purely from confusion has no more to sustain it then confusion. Where as real belief in intentional fakery will not merely also be sustained, but continually and purposely renewed by ongoing duplicitous malice.
A religion based on confusion will but avoid the truth. A religion based on fakery will be gunning for the truth.
@Fake Messiah I personally think you're just tossing the word salad to interject your bias that all Christians are as fake as what they believe in. Belief by definition requires an acceptance, to be held or a conviction. I could "pretend" that I was a 7'5" latino basketball star. It's not true and would require a significant amount of suspension of belief to fully convince myself. But if I stated I believe that I am one, that acceptance is real 100% real, even if is delusional. I admit that someone who claims to believe in Christ is either lying (by casual profession, to themselves or to your face), or believe 100%. You're attacking the object of that belief and insinuating (if not stating) that for the vast majority of Christians it requires "huge effort" to suspend belief in something so blatantly falsifiable. I apologize if I've mischaracterized your intent, but that's how it reads to me. Please clarify if I'm wrong about that.
(May 3, 2019 at 9:38 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:You are correct. You never claimed I said those things. You just attested that I jump on the bandwagon of railroading all "fake Christians"(May 2, 2019 at 3:42 pm)tackattack Wrote: I never said unshake-able faith was a requirement to be a true believer. I never said that questioning your faith means you not a "true Christian". I'm actually on the opposite side of both of those statements so please don't put words in my mouth. My overall point if you'll go back and read was the lack of empathy for this man's trashed life. If you want to argue why it was trashed it's because, as I think we can all agree on, he was deluding himself. That's exactly what it means when you profess to "fake it till you make it". And yes True Christians do call that not being a Christian, so do atheists, Buddhists, Muslims, etc. As for the Anti-thesits in the thread that continuously use any chance they can to correlate Christianity with unreasonable and delusional beliefs and that we're constantly lying and illogical, FFS at least have some compassion for your now fellow atheist. I'll leave off my comment about the morality of the atheists the OP found and those. I'll leave this to to the rant section.
"Or...<enter taylor swift> Cause a fakers gonna fake fake fake fake fake.... since he was in 8th grade." --tackattack
And for the record, I put zero words in your mouth.
OK and how is my calling out one self-professed admitted faker ..
A)judging someone unfairly?
B)Making biased generalizations about all people in that same group?
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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