RE: Good vs Evil
May 8, 2019 at 10:36 am
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2019 at 10:42 am by Drich.)
(May 7, 2019 at 3:09 pm)Smaug Wrote:maybe you didn't do ANY research before you spoke...(May 7, 2019 at 12:59 pm)Drich Wrote: I see you are not familiar with positive christianity.
It was a move by the state to regulate the 'absolute standards of god.' to loosen the rules and allow the people to not only accept the final solution but to demand it.
In essence positive christianity was a break from the absolute standards of god (not based on the apstole's creed nor has any outside church influence)and a new standard based on german righteousness was superseded in the church the rest of the world knew.. When the germans stated 'Gott mit Uns' they referred to the father of positive christianity which was not the God of the bible but the chancoller himself. As According to mein kampf Religion was a tool that was to be used for a time which was to be replaced by state law and regulation.
The german people where slowly weaned off of God and the bible and set on a diet of their own self righteousness. The problem with self righteousness is there is no unity everyone is at a different level of evil and society breaks down because of it. for even if the majority are good with killing off a segment of the population, not everyone is and this sows discord into the community at large, when the opposition comes with absolute standards, it comes on a unified front.
No the 10 commandments are not absolutes unless you are one of the unsaved.
you do understand there is a difference between murder and killing right?
To murder is a sanctioned taking of human life. To take a human life in of itself finds no prohibition in the bible. as you pointed out there are clear examples of it. however where the sin comes in is not simply taking life but the unauthorized or unsanctioned taking of human life. One can not go out on his own and start taking life based on his or her own self righteousness.
The only difference of the 'Positive' Christianity is that you consider it false. While many Germans at that point in time did not. Also it's known fact that Vatican supported another dictator, Mussoulini.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity
"positive Christianity" was a state propaganda move created and regulated by the state in an effort to ween the german people OFF of religion all together. Its not an "I thought it is a false religion." The german state engineered it as a false religion to step down the german people's dependance on a religion and or God to define their morality. They Replace God with the chancellor. meaning rather than christianity being a religion that gives you direct access to God, according to this movement God gave the german people hitler as a personal tangible stand in. Giving hitler's will as the will of God.
Quote:Speaking of sanctioned taking of human life... on the one hand having a divine ban on murder seems good. On the other hand, dealing with lunatics that go into homicidal mode on a flip of a switch does notunless there is an absolute standard that supersedes the authority of the leader... like the bible, which is why hitler separated the german people from the mainstream church and made his own placing his will before God's will.As for the sins and heresies, those concepts easily bend to the will of manipulative leaders.
(May 7, 2019 at 6:39 pm)Amarok Wrote:Quote:you are speaking to a state of mind of the child. something you can not know, unless you look at history. you assume because children you know of that age are open books of blank sheets Child soldiers are like other children. Child soldiers are not atomotons blindly carrying out acts they can not understand the consenquences of... they have been trained to think and out maneuver their enemies. enemies who have been targeted since they could walk.So long rambly pretentious blather
There is little to no difference between a child soldier and one who is of 'fighting age.' The civial war bore this out, the revolutionary war also bore this out. They fought bled and died just like their older counter parts, they faced death they faced hardship and pain, the same hardship and pain the veterans faced. Granted their jobs may have been different (drummer or fife player) but the drums where critical in fog of war communication. in essence they order the company or sometimes the battalion to fire a volley, free fire, advance bayonet charge or retreat. these 'boys' where given a monumental task of litterally pulling the trigger on hundreds of weapons just by playing the orders given. or f the messed up they could have cause the deaths of hundreds of their fellow soldiers. so to say a child soldier is like the ones you are familiar with is nuts.
Just look at some of the documentaries of the warring tribes currently in africa who employ child riflemen. some as young as 8. those kids are war harden monsters who could dispatch any of us before we knew it.
My point is evil know no age limitations. if their is consciousness evil can exist.
only the biggest fools wrapped up in their own self righteousness pretend evil can not exist. if people could just be honest with them selves they could label the men who train children to be combatants that put them in harms way or to be sacrificed as human bombs, if the self righteous could be honest they could see those men who do this sort of stuff as evil. But because the self righteous aligned themselves with evil inorder to invalidate God's righteous standards they can not identify anything evil as evil, which means they are only able to identify God's righteousness as evil.
Which is consistent with what the bible says about the last days. The evil men will change the standards of 'morality' and good will be come evil and evil will become good.
such short sited obtuse blind pride, that does not stand on it's own, as it can not even articulate a topical objection. Rather depends on sweeping dismissals permitted by a hypocritical peer approval.