The forces of good and evil are related

[Foxaèr]

This is purely from a fictional, metaphorical viewpoint.

I have read lots of books, seen lots of movies, seen lots of television shows in my lifetime.

Take the bible, for starters. God, the force of good and his creation, could be considered his son, the devil as force of evil.

Now onto Star Wars. Luke Skywalker, the force of good while Darth Vader, the father, is the force of evil.

Now onto the television show "Lucifer". God, the force of good. Lucifer, the son, the force of evil. Lucifer's mother, God's wife, also somewhat a force of evil.

The television show "Supernatural". God, the force of good. Darkness, God's sister, the force of evil.

Stephen King's "The Shining". The force of good in the young son. The force of evil being the father.

I suppose we choose the familial connection for good and evil as it resonates more with us in how we personally relate to our own families, unless one is of the rare statistic of having been part of the "perfect" family.

[vorlon13]

Vorlons and Shadows . . .

[Foxaèr]

Vorlons and Shadows . . .

OMG, I just realized what a Vorlon is in relation to your username and Babylon 5. I haven't seen the show in forever, and I guess I never payed attention to the technical term for the alien I thought was the coolest of all, which was the Vorlon.

Was it wrong that I wanted to have sex with Kosh?

[brewer]

dogs and cats.....

[Brian37]

This is purely from a fictional, metaphorical viewpoint.

I have read lots of books, seen lots of movies, seen lots of television shows in my lifetime.

Take the bible, for starters.  God, the force of good and his creation, could be considered his son, the devil as force of evil.

Now onto Star Wars.  Luke Skywalker, the force of good while Darth Vader, the father, is the force of evil.

Now onto the television show "Lucifer".  God, the force of good.  Lucifer, the son, the force of evil.  Lucifer's mother, God's wife, also somewhat a force of evil.

The television show "Supernatural".  God, the force of good.  Darkness, God's sister, the force of evil.

Stephen King's "The Shining".  The force of good in the young son.  The force of evil being the father.

I suppose we choose the familial connection for good and evil as it resonates more with us in how we personally relate to our own families, unless one is of the rare statistic of having been part of the "perfect" family.

I don't think you need to put reality in terms of metaphor or philosophy.

Humans do chalk good and evil to mythology, superstition and sky heros. But good and evil are not explained with those things.

Humans see good as that which benefits and evil as that which harms. But those things are highly subjective to point of view.

"Good vs evil" as motifs exist in fiction too. 

Star Wars, is very religiously themed even though fiction. Instead of your God of Abraham, you have the superstition of a invisible force that has a dark side and a good side, which manifests into hero vs villain in Yoda and Obi Wan and Skywalker vs the evil of the Emperor and Darth Vader. 

Good vs evil is really nothing more than our species reflection of desiring to continue. It is a reflection of our evolutionary survival. 

Religion works from the idea of the same principle of pop media fiction. You cant have a hero without a villain.

[vorlon13]

Vorlons and Shadows . . .

OMG, I just realized what a Vorlon is in relation to your username and Babylon 5.  I haven't seen the show in forever, and I guess I never payed attention to the technical term for the alien I thought was the coolest of all, which was the Vorlon.  

Was it wrong that I wanted to have sex with Kosh?

Then the willows must scuttle carefully.

[ignoramus]

Like the Force in SW, it can be used for both good and evil. It's just a vehicle.
Like deeds. EG, killing a bull with spears for entertainment for me is cruel, if you're Spanish, it's Saturday night.

There is no objectively bad deed me thinks.

PS, If Trump nukes NK because Kim fired first, does that justify the 30 million innocent dead as collateral? I don't know

[Mystic]

Because you don't know something doesn't mean there isn't any objective way to know it.

And indeed if morality is true, it is a guidance. And if guidance exists, it must be from the absolute perception and perfect judge who will guide throughout all stages.

And indeed God is capable of manifesting that guidance that is inwardly connected to us, by his words and verify reason and his proof. And he can make a book a focal point by which this occurs. And knowing the evil of those who wish to implement their desire on the book through all means necessary, he would provide guardians.

And being consistent would be expected for God, and there is wisdom in making them into chosen families, who are close to each other, and associated in the affair of guidance with respect to their mission. And their is always a reminder and family associated with it.

And it makes sense that regarding how much Navigators and Captains would succeed the founder, there would be a consistent way and number. The only number with possible consistency if you research religions is Twelve.

And because guidance is connected to us, it proves God who it's leading to and it's source. And because it is connected to us, it proves God can manifest it and show it's accurate explanation and reasoning and focus our reflection on which will guide us to the truth of it, so that humanity unites on the rope of God.

And because it requires proper reasoning and reflection, we are in need of guide who sees it as it and is the witness of it's light.

And we need light to see, and indeed the light and witness go hand to hand, the witness and perceiver is that which is manifested as well.

And God is the witness by which our value, deeds, and identity are defined.

Indeed evil is related to Good, since it's negative, it's opposite, and get's it's reality from being opposite to good.

And evil is not just malice but all sorts of other evils.

Good is not just compassion, but all sorts of other goods.

Praise and condemnation cannot be limited to what we want it to be by our desires, so we justify our dirty corrupted water.

[Astonished]

What's truly amazing is this wack-a-doo actually thinks anyone is going to waste time reading his shit. Let me take a wild stab in the dark; lots of false equivalencies, unfounded assertions and unfinished points that ultimately would have gone nowhere anyway?

It makes sense that historically the older generations would be considered the cruel ogres oppressing their progeny who rebel and stand up to them. It's not always that way of course but surely the majority of fiction and history shows it that way. Too bad no one who sees that in the bible realizes that the facade of jeebus was in many ways far worse than that of papa Yahweh. Come to think, lots of fiction has the apple not falling very far from the tree.

[Fireball]

What's truly amazing is this wack-a-doo actually thinks anyone is going to waste time reading his shit. Let me take a wild stab in the dark; lots of false equivalencies, unfounded assertions and unfinished points that ultimately would have gone nowhere anyway?

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I got to the middle of sentence two of MK's post, and my BS meter bent the needle around the high side peg, so I left it at that point.