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I think it’s ridiculous She’ll to want it both ways. You can’t have a “hail the hero” celebration and not expect shame for cowards.

You 100% can. We hail overachievers without sending the kids who got Fs to jail for it. We hand out the Nobel Prize to outstanding people (for the most part), but we don't hand out a "fuck you" award to people who've contributed nothing to humanity. Cowardice is not shameful. It's just a reaction that some people have. It's unfortunately, but it's not fair to shame him.

Until girls stop haunting the bad boys while growing up and we as a society stop aggrandizing state sanctioned mass murder (read war) then hero’s should win and scaredy cats should be more like heroes, imo

Society rewarding this kind of behavior doesn't mean that's what's right, so I refer you back to my earlier posts.

Listen, I married the "war hero." He was an asshole of the highest order, and he used his service as an excuse to be an abusive prick. Then, I married a pacifist, and I can say with a certainty which behavior we should be rewarding. I'm not a pacifist, but I also try very hard not criticize it.

I don't agree Shell. You can't have "winners" without "losers", When people try that it leads to society giving out participation awards. I am very much against that. Winning should have meaning to be a valid goal, and missing the mark should be felt. The degree with which we punish or shame, bystanders that do nothing but film crimes, paid cops that can't shoot when needed to, soldiers who flee their post or people in power abusing children may differ. You, as an observer, may celebrate with the 1st place winner of a race. The winner is probably celebrating too. But there could be daggers in the eyes or shame in the runners up. It breeds healthy goal setting and competition, but like anything can be taken too far. If you don't think we hand out "FU" awards, check the latest Darwin award winners. I will contend that most of the shame for losing, from my experience, is internally generated. I suppose it is a point that societal ridicule could be perceived as kicking people when they're down, but that probably stems from motivation cues and communication issues.