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[Serious] An Argument Against Hedonistic Moral Realism
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RE: An Argument Against Hedonistic Moral Realism
-and that's the only sort of objectivity or mind independence that matters in the difference between realism and subjectivism.

The reason that we don't call it "opinion- independence" is that both realists and subjectivists also claim that our moral propositions -are- our opinions. It is our opinion, at least, that statement x is true. That x purports to report a fact, rather than being something like "bleh" or "ugh" - the difference between cognitivist assertions like subjectivism and realism and non cognitivist assertions like emotivism.

I have opinions, you have opinions, we all have opinions. All of our collective opinions are in our heads. When some opinion of ours purports to report a fact, and does report a fact, it's said to be a realist proposition. When an opinion purports to report a fact but doesn't, it's an error. When an opinion purports to report a fact and does report a fact but, instead, refers to some fact of the opinion holder rather than the object (purportedly) being referred to - it's said to be subjective.
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RE: An Argument Against Hedonistic Moral Realism - by The Grand Nudger - June 16, 2019 at 1:14 pm

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