(July 13, 2019 at 3:28 pm)Nogba Wrote:(July 13, 2019 at 3:16 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Calling the alleged first cause "god" does not make it true that the first cause is "god". And certainly does not mean that it must therefore be the god that you specifically believe in.
Let's just call it the first cause then ?
A first cause that isn't supernatural and certainly isn't Allah of the Qur'an? Sure ...
Personally, I think the first cause (if there is one) is natural and "somewhere" in the universe itself.