The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence

[LadyForCamus]

I think Bel has made his tentative position pretty clear (bold mine):

Now, could there be anything prior to the brute fact that things exist? Is there something that could provide a foundation to the brute fact that things exist? I don't think so, because that thing would have to exist. So we'd have an existing thing resting as the foundation that things exist. And I don't think that makes sense. To make this work, you'd have to posit some kind of supernatural non-existent thing, and nobody here is fond of supernatural explanations.

I think it’s explicitly clear here that Bel does not believe the first cause arguments can get us reasonably to a supernatural god that caused existence, so why is he being berated by some as though that’s what his argument is? He’s not insinuating anything meaningfully different from what I’m saying, yet he’s getting hammered and I’m not. Just because someone has “agnostic” next to their handle, that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re a Christian in disguise, lol

@Belaqua

If I misrepresented you in any way I apologize, and please do correct me.