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The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence

Bucky Ball Offline

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RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence

July 16, 2019 at 1:40 pm

(July 16, 2019 at 1:34 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(July 16, 2019 at 3:33 am)Belaqua Wrote: In the Aristotelian and Thomist system, the First Cause takes no action. It is not an immaterial being.

So the first cause literally does nothing, with nothing and that's how you get a universe.

Right. (please inject as much sarcasm as you can into that)

Actually in the Thomistic system it does "do" something. It both "conceives" of it, and then "wills" it into existence.
(We now know "will" is a term which meant something to Aquinas and probably no longer means anything.)

Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell Popcorn

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