Here’s my question.

[Drich]

in the 40 and 50s the black marriage rate was far higher than whites, so for the purpose of this discussion for black people it was a good time for their communities (if you were not in the south.)

Really? And all of the non-Southern Black families who were essentially forced to move into public housing due to government-sanctioned housing discrimination (or pay the tremendous cost of living in home via contract selling in which they afforded ZERO equity) were experiencing "good times"?

no one was forced into shite. As you so hypocritical pointed out just one post ago blacks are not the only people who are poor. when public housing was first made available it was to the standard of 1950s 1960 family who could afford a home or duplex the sqare footage in the home as well as having modern conveniences to the 1950 and 1960 where shared I know because I worked about 15 years in the projects in and around orlando and most of those project built back then are still in use. No one back then felt like they where down sized into public housing most came from shot gun single room shack with no running water and not electricity. people used still used out houses back then! My dad and his family themselves lived in an old abandon school bus set on the ground with a dirt floor they would have been happy to live in a public housing project, but where the wrong color.
So no, the VAST majority where not forced into anything. they willingly left their shite holes for modern living.

Say, you DO know what happened to most of the remaining working and middle-class Blacks neighborhoods where all those nice married couple lived once the Federal Highway Act of 1956 was passed don't you? They were scouted and deemed to be "ideal" locations for running the Interstate Highway System through.

So that;s why the highways where not build in straight lines!!! I thought it was to avoid natural obsticals and to connect cities, but you are saying the highway system was built to pave over black communities. to displace all black people and their glorious homes that where build at the end of slavery or if they where lucky lived in a company planned shot gun shack of the 1920 the used the excuse of road building to taget all of these places and then build Brand new a home that would be equal to any working class white person of the 1950s. or have you never been in a 1950s home white people have always lived in and never remodeled? they look and feel like any old project home.

So they were demolished.

True story.

I have no doubt that a highwy plowed though homes... but they where not limited to black people.

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Yet interestingly enough:
It Isn't Just Asian Immigrants Who Excel in the US
African Immigrants More Educated Than Most- Including Those Born in the US
The Most Successful Ethnic Group in the US May Suprise You
Africa is Sending it's Best and Brightest

Are you ever going to learn to start looking shit up before you start posting your thoughts all willy-nilly?

OMG.. IF you where nigerian you would know only 300K total live in this country. you would also know they mostly do not self identify as black/african american. So technically they do not want to be seen as a common black american. most identify as nigerian american, so you should not be so quick to brag about a people who do not want to be considered 'one of you.' (stings a little donit?/Had the same problem growing up mixed Ie yu own people do not want to claim you) That said let look at the number behind your glorious claim that nigerian immigrants are beating asians as far as sending over immigrants with the highest level of education.

That said let's by-pass the teteriary leftist propaganda and lets look at some raw numbers and make up our own minds.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20...-the-rise/

According to this 52.1% of asians come here with a 4 year degree or better.

And according to this ALL Sub Saharan african nations ( All black nations) sent 32% of immigrants here with highschool of less.
The number of collage educated is at A RESPECTABLE 40%

Now It does not seem like the people who wrote your propaganda peices are that educated as 52.1% is a greater or larger volume f people than 40%..

So one question remains... do you like apples?

How you like "dim" apples

You said I should research more and I did and by doing so took your BS propaganda and fed it back to you with real numbers from a legit site and not some political piece designed to make people like you feel self important.

Plus "dim apples" Dim like Dim=o-crate

I see. How fascinating.
Personally, I don't subscribe to the notion of collective guilt in situations such as these. I see no logical reason to feel responsible for the misdeeds of others who simply happen to share the same phenotype as me.

that is why you and people who think like you do fail. fail at what? life political and world power. look at the BS white people do to retain power. they pretend to care about all of the bs black people are angry about and look every election cycle to pretend to apologize for the race of white people.
Look at china. the are a borg collective if there was ever such a thing. their sense of community out does our own to the point they are the true economic world power. they bailed us out of obama era spending. To the point they are a geopolitical and economic force that threatens how western life is lived.

Now the challenge is name one country on the world stage/meaning it influences how the world is and works without the collective bond collective pride or collective guilt that I was describing to you. Do you self identify with a people or nation outside of the US? if so what do they bring to the world market.

Even korea's evil twin north korea has and does hold the world hostage because of the unity of the people as they see themselves as one large exended family with no member being greater than the father. that 30 million people would on the orders of their father run into hell if s ordered.

The point is we are stronger together and that is the whole point behind family verse the individualism that free sex brings.

Bold mine:

https://www.adl.org/racism

The article in question comes dangerously close to insinuating as much. The most generous I can be is to say that the author’s failure to approach any tangible, measurable cause for this phenomenon in improvised, black communities leaves the door wide open for racist interpretations. 

no did not say that. I said look at who is in jail. more whites than black almost double. then I asked do these men come from a mom and dad family or did they come from a mom only family... Then I point out that a lager percentage of black people populate prison which is in correlation to the decline of marriage and the increases of available free sex in that specific society.

The distinction here was to point out larger numbers of whites populate prison and come from a broken home

But a larger percentage of black men meaning a larger percentage of black men in the community have problems adapting to prime american culture (where asians spanish whites and blacks all come together and live under the rule of social and legal authority, for the ame reason a smaller percentage of white men but a larger number of whites are in prison. these men re with out the structure and discipline that a full time father contributes to the family structure.

Yeah, I see what you did there, Slick.  

You know...The way you not-so-cleverly omitted marriage-oriented NON-WHITE Hispanic and Latino populations who continue to deeply impacted by poverty and related issues as well because it FUCKS UP your bullshit narrative from multiple angles.

what are you talking about read it again I included white and black identifying hispanics.

LMFAO...Busted again.
How many times does that make now?

the only thing busted is your ablity to use logic and reson to have a discussion. you rely on key word fanaticism and racially charging a topic you can not other wise win... [Loosing a discussion? It is ok person of color just put out your race card and all white people will stop speaking...] I'm Not white retard. If blacks can not be considered racist because they are a minority, then know my people are 1/4 of the number yours are. so I am in the minority in this conversation you racist bastard!

I'll give you a pass on continuing to cling to your "model minority" Asian stereotype, seeing as though you probably hadn't seen the citations I posted that debunk that particular myth when you composed this horseshit.

saw then kicked them in the teeth with true facts and real numbers and identified them as political propaganda.

*bolding done by me for emphasis*

I did not isolate black people here. I point out a universal truth and used black people and their social decline in the last 50 years as an example because again it is well charted and documented, as the family declined the numbers of black men being imprisoned raised. which again is mirrored in other cultures but is not as well known or observed as in the black community.

 

Again, you grossly oversimplify matters in attributing poverty and related issues to the sudden adoption of "free sex" attitude in the 60's and ignoring every one of discriminatory structural policies including privatization of prisons and sentencing guidelines that targeted the poorest populations in the low-income areas that Uncle Sam moved heaven and earth to create. 

that is because the political discrimination stuff is utter bullshit past a certain point. 50s 60 70s... ok but things started to change in the 80s ad while blacks where being folding into society Asians where hated by black and white alike for 50 years of war. (how many blacks where taken like loaded into truck like the nazi loaded jews into trains and sent to literal concentration camps during WWII. How many black slaves where they after the civil war? the rail companies where shipping chinese over to build cross country rail way and employed indentured servitude (we will bring you to america but you will work for 10 years) which continued through the 1980s it even is depicted in the karate kid of all places.. and though it all Asians stuck together kept their family values intact and pushed through the same if not worse oppsition than any black person did (again most of you speak english or at least a form of it that can some what be understood) and yet you are still crying about all that was done to people in your past you do not even know! Ie did you get forced into a public home? did you pack those boxes in the 1950s where you so scared about being forced to move into a home with water electricity and plumbing that you could not function in mainstream america?

again before you loose yourself to emotion my point is this: at some point in history persecution real persecution (cross burning, hanging whippings segregation, the real shite they keeps a people down stoped.) and has done a long long time ago. what you endure now is of your own making. it is the same level of resistance that any other race endures and succeeds at. again asian, middle eastern, hindi/real indians, american indians, ALL have faced opposition all extremely successful people working in the highest paying jobs in this country/world. So do some black people but the ration is disproportionate considering the numbers. Again skin color aside and brain capacity all being the same (because anyone who uses race as a crutch as to why they can not ABC is BS) the only primary difference between most black people any all others who repeatedly produce successful members of society, is family, structure, and community. What proves this is successful black people often grow up in a traditional family and OR have one of their own/ they learned the value of family and used it to better their situation and themselves.

Why would you argue there is no need for black people to have traditional families? again this is not a race thing. it is a communal thing. in order for one to be sucessful in a community they must be able to commune with blood.

Yes, there is dysfunction within the Black community, but it is undeniable that the US government has indeed made countless, concerted efforts to prevent Black Americans from advancing n this country. Don't tell me "No" because I've provided several examples of how the US enacted policies that were explicitly designed to dick Black veterans and "good" Black families out of any reasonable shot at achieving the American Dream and cripple Blacks socially and economically for generations to come.

again black do not get an extra layer of hate to work through. if you are not white, you are not white, but the thing is now you do not have to be. what people like you do not understand the new color is green and gold not white. because if you have green and gold it does not matter what color your skin is or your moms skin. black nba and nfl players know this as well as any other successful minority. (Green trumps white)

Cry babies say well the white man won't let me have any green! That's the thing sport go to china go to nigeria go to iraq, NO BODY is giving out green! you have to earn it. if someone gives you any green they want to own your for it. what do you think welfare really is? don't vote dim and your money goes away... so now you vote dim and in order to vote dim you have to think dim which means you have to give up your personal freedoms. ie bill of rights. (but most of you don't know that anyway as you are too busy combing for words to identify people as racists.

So the question is how much of that of dysfunction is result is from a mere lack of moral character and/or trying and how much of it is actually the result of being worn the fuck down by being reviled and feared to such a degree that this country has gone out it's fucking way to take measures ensuring that Blacks would remain a permanent, hated underclass since it's very inception? The world may never know, but I've sure as hell got enough sense to know that all this shit isn't the sole result of not attempting assimilate well enough or having "the unmarried sex".

What I do know is that your argument is absolutely trash, Drich. It's almost entirely based on racist stereotypes and debunked presumptions and is careless and shoddy as fuck.

honestly it is not moral character..

as black people are no more or no less moral than any other people at the start. It is the demise of the family that makes any group different than what mainstream america expects. as america is made up of successful minorities who all face the same problem blacks do in far fewer numbers with far fewer benefits yet come outon top more often than not. and having been part of a family is that key