RE: A timeless being cannot create
July 19, 2019 at 12:15 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2019 at 12:34 pm by GrandizerII.)
(July 17, 2019 at 4:27 am)Belaqua Wrote:(July 17, 2019 at 12:55 am)mcc1789 Wrote: A creation involves a change in space and time.
I wonder if this is so...
If there is no space and time yet, then there can be no change in space and time. So creation doesn't change space and time -- it makes space and time.
I'm going to be honest here. This sounds to me like very clever word play that only serves to obscure the difficulties inherent in the Christian God. An example of why I take issue with theology.
If there is no time, then there can be no change at all. Creation does cause a change from "no space and time" to "space and time", so the challenge discussed in the OP is still there and hasn't been solved by just this one "fix".
(July 17, 2019 at 9:28 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(July 17, 2019 at 4:19 pm)mcc1789 Wrote: Okay... I'm unclear on how that relates to this.
I will elaborate, in the OP you said:
Quote:Yet when something is created, it comes into being. That entails a previous instance where it didn't exist of course. Yet if time itself was created, that makes no sense.
But there is evidence that the past,present and future are actually existing at the same time, but your primitive mind as a human can only see the illusion of the three states being separate entities.
In other words; there might even be other states of time that we can't even see or even imagine in other dimensions.
My belief is that God exists in another higher dimension. So he is not limited to our basic 3 states of time. That's the rephrasing of my post.
So God still exists in time then?
